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    Revived: Cooked Intel & Torture Abuse: So the 'Stovepipe' Stops Where?

    Howdy DagBloggers...

    In case you missed it in the comments que today, check out my latest comment in a very old thread from the TPM Cafe blog days that is archived here a DagBlog.

    Cooked Intel & Torture Abuse: So the 'Stovepipe' Stops Where? - 2007

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    ~OGD~

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    Thanks for the heads up on Frontline.  I will get to watch it later on line when the kids are a sleep. I wrote about last weeks on Salmonella in chicken.  That documentary triggered congress to introduce some food safety bills.   


    More for the Rabbit Hole . . .

    I just keep plugging along.

    From: Mother Jones

    George W. Bush's CIA Briefer: Bush and Cheney
    Falsely Presented WMD Intelligence to Public

    On "Hardball," Michael Morell concedes the Bush administration misled the nation into the Iraq War.

    —By David Corn | Tue May 19, 2015

    President George Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and their lieutenants misled the American public about the WMD threat supposedly posed by Saddam Hussein in order to grease the way to the invasion of Iraq. For Bush, Cheney, and the rest, this endeavor is fundamental; it is necessary to protect the legitimacy of the Bush II presidency. Naturally, Karl Rove and other Bushies have quickly tried to douse the Bush-lied-us-into-war fire whenever such flames have appeared. And in recent days, as Jeb Bush bumbled a question about the Iraq War, he and other GOPers have peddled the fictitious tale that his brother launched the invasion because he was presented lousy intelligence. But now there's a new witness who will make the Bush apologists' mission even more impossible: Michael Morell, a longtime CIA official who eventually became the agency's deputy director and acting director. During the preinvasion period, he served as Bush's intelligence briefer.

    Appearing on MSNBC's Hardball on Tuesday night, Morell made it clear: The Bush-Cheney administration publicly misrepresented the intelligence related to Iraq's supposed WMD program and Saddam's alleged links to Al Qaeda.

    Host Chris Matthews asked Morell about a statement Cheney made in 2003: "We know he [Saddam Hussein] has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." Here's the conversation that followed:

    MATTHEWS: Was that true?

    MORELL: We were saying—

    MATTHEWS: Can you answer that question? Was that true?

    MORELL: That's not true.

    MATTHEWS: Well, why'd you let them get away with it?

    MORELL: Look, my job Chris—

    MATTHEWS: You're the briefer for the president on intelligence, you're the top person to go in and tell him what's going on. You see Cheney make this charge he's got a nuclear bomb and then they make subsequent charges he knew how to deliver it…and nobody raised their hand and said, "No that's not what we told him."

    MORELL: Chris, Chris Chris, what's my job, right? My job—

    MATTHEWS: To tell the truth.

    MORELL: My job—no, as the briefer? As the briefer?

    MATTHEWS: Okay, go ahead.

    MORELL: As the briefer, my job is to carry CIA's best information and best analysis to the president of the United States and make sure he understands it. My job is to not watch what they're saying on TV.

    The discussion went on:

    MATTHEWS: So you're briefing the president on the reasons for war, they're selling the war, using your stuff, saying you made that case when you didn't. So they're using your credibility to make the case for war dishonestly, as you just admitted.

    MORELL: Look, I'm just telling you—

    MATTHEWS: You just admitted it.

    MORELL: I'm just telling you what we said—

    MATTHEWS: They gave a false presentation of what you said to them.

    MORELL: On some aspects. On some aspects.

    There's the indictment, issued by the intelligence officer who briefed Bush and Cheney: The Bush White House made a "false presentation" on "some aspects" of the case for war. "That's a big deal," Matthews exclaimed. Morell replied, "It's a big deal."

    And there's more. Referring to the claims made by Bush, Cheney, and other administration officials that Saddam was in league with Al Qaeda, Morell noted, "What they were saying about the link between Iraq and Al Qaeda publicly was not what the intelligence community" had concluded. He added, "I think they were trying to make a stronger case for the war." That is, stronger than the truth would allow.

    Morell's remarks support the basic charge: Bush and Cheney were not misled by flawed intelligence; they used the flawed intelligence to mislead.

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    You know I have no other place to put this.

    I watched Letterman today, his antepasto, so to speak.

    The only reason I put it on was because of the headline that Dylan would appear.

    And he only showed up to sing a terrible song.

    The poem read alone might be majestic.

    I thought of you and Mr. Smith.

    I miss the olden days.

    Sorry, that is all I got.

    I felt sad today.

     


    Hi Dick . . .

    Allow me to try and make you feel better by knowing that by you dropping the comment here has made me feel better, if any of that makes sense.

    As you can see I'm still chasing those two sons-of-bitches Bush and Cheney down the Rabbit Hole. Somehow it keeps me going. That, and tending the fresh lettuce and other consumables on our roof-top garden.

    Keep your chin up...

    Hah! Hah!

    ~OGD~


    I hit the wrong button on my new (warranteed) pc.

    Chris was not my favorite fellow until about 2005 when it appears Cheney threatened Mathews' bosses.

    Chris turned.

    I mean he was so wondered by our CIC on that goddamn aircraft carrier some ten miles off our west coast. God I miss Olbermann.

    Anyway, that was ten years ago and Chris is so goddamn mad at GW and Cheney and a host of others.

    I loved your text.

    Hell, a majority of our nation does not even recall that TJ owned slaves. hahahahaha

    And there you have it.

    Yeah, that was not true.

    In most statutes, the standard is not the answer to the verdict that:

    THIS WAS A LIE.

    Most statutes and regs ask the question:

    Did you know or should you have known....

    Watch this, that only involves Beck, a real mental illness phenomena:

    I get lost.

    Like there is no truth.

    Oh I am just going on and on.

    Nice to see ya Ducky.

    No kidding.

     


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