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    The Unbelievable Adventures

    I just read that John Neville, who played Baron Munchausen in The Adventures Of ..., and the Well-Manicured Man on The X-Files, has died. In stories, Munchausen was a comical hero able to lift himself to the moon by his own bootstraps, or out of a swamp by his own hair, and so on.

    In the 1970s, I wanted an EV so I could avoid sitting in gas lines. On the one hand pretty girls would walk up and down the line selling coffee, doughnuts, and Washington Posts but on the other there were fistfights and guns drawn over one's place in line. I bought a 120 mpg moped and filled it from my car's tank, so my fingers smelled like gasoline but I only had to refill every 1000 miles.

    Then a Consumer Reports article panned the two-stroke moped engine for its dirty exhaust and advised that I'd be better off driving with six people in a station wagon. (For those that are too young to remember, a station wagon was a vehicle much like a longer, lower SUV.) So I figured electric vehicles would be cleaner. I just assumed that even if gasoline became scarce and expensive, I'd still have to get to the office in my clean, quiet EV. And I waited.

    In the meantime, I read that electrical generating plants were throwing away power overnight anyway, so EVs were a great way to leverage that power for good use. But there still was only the EV-1 on the other coast.

    Then I read that electrical plants weren't throwing away quite that much power because some plants could be shut down quickly. But conversion losses from coal to heat to electricity dwarfed anything that a few EVs would use. And the EV-1s were being crushed.

    Anyway, a respected architect named McDonough writes that lifecycle is important, so I've been trying to find cradle-to-cradle assessments of vehicles. Lifecycle studies aren't all that easy to view for free, but I found another one - Life Cycle Assessment of Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Plug-in Hybrid Vehicles: Implications for Policy from the Department of Engineering and Public Policy, and Department of Civil and  Environmental Engineering at Carnegie-Mellon University - PDF reposted at GWU. This study only compares Conventional internal combustion  Vehicles (CV), Hybrid Electric Vehicles (HEV) and Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicles (PHEV) with ranges of 30, 60 or 90 km.

    The Ricardo study (pdf) used an emissions intensity of 500 g/kWh in the UK. The CMU study starts with 670 g/kWh, based on average US emissions intensity, and admits the possibility of either carbon-intensive and low-carbon futures:

    For the base-case scenario, electricity used to charge PHEVs has a life cycle GHG intensity similar to the average intensity of the  current U.S. power portfolio, or 670 g CO2-eq per kWh of electricity (30, 33). The carbon-intensive scenario, at 950 g CO2-eq/kWh,  represents a case where coal (the most carbon-intensive fuel) is the predominant fuel for electricity generation. The low-carbon scenario describes an energy system where renewables, nuclear, or coal with carbon capture and sequestration, account for a large share of the generation, thus making the GHG intensity of electricity low, at 200 g CO2-eq/kWh. Table S6 outlines a representative electricity mix for  the low-carbon scenario and shows direct and upstream emissions of each generation technology.


    Looking at CMU's Figure 2 makes it clear that while HEV emissions are always about 30% less than CVs, PHEV emissions are only less than HEVs' when the generating plant GHG intensity is less than about 750 g/kWh. The lower that intensity number, the better PHEVs, and presumably EVs, look from an emissions perspective. With dirty power, the low tailpipe emissions of PHEVs, and presumably EVs, become much less compelling.

    Although Munchausen could defy gravity by the exercise of will, we can't lift ourselves out of a high CO2 future simply by driving low emission vehicles. Which future we get to depends on what powerplants we build, and how we build them:

    While it is evident that GHG intensity of the electricity used to charge PHEVs greatly affects their ability to reduce GHG emissions from transport, a policy discussion regarding electricity supply decisions and PHEVs deserves wider attention and dialogue. U.S. power generation facilities, especially aging coal power plants, are generally nearing the end of their useful lives and will have to be replaced or overhauled within the next two decades. Because power plants typically are in service for 30 years or more, technology decisions regarding new generation capacity have profound and long-lasting GHG impacts (44, 45). The Department of Energy reports plans to build 50 GW of coal power plants in the next 5 years and a total of 154 GW within the next 24 years (36), and the U.S. Energy Information Administration reference case forecasts a 2030 electricity mix with higher carbon intensity than today’s mix (46). ... Large reductions in the GHG intensity of the electricity sector within the next 30 years will only be realized by sustained replacement of retired carbon-intensive capital with low-carbon generation.

    And there's the rub because every sort of large-scale power generating plant is an investment in infrastructure expensive to fund, and energy-intensive to build. Every power company rejects environmental regulation, saying they can't make money unless they clearcut the forest, or pollute the water, or remove the mountaintop, or leave radioactive wastes.

    What's a comical hero to do?

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    With dirty power, the low tailpipe emissions of PHEVs, and presumably EVs, become much less compelling.

    Although Munchausen could defy gravity by the exercise of will, we can't lift ourselves out of a high CO2 future simply by driving low emission vehicles. Which future we get to depends on what powerplants we build, and how we build them:

    But isn't this a bit of a strawman in the sense that environmentalists who advocate for these cars ALSO advocate for greener power generation? Who says that we'll clean up the environment JUST by driving greener vehicles?

    I confess to not being technologically literate, but it seems like a lot turns on exact measurements. I don't know whether your chart or quotes supply these, but EYE, a lay reader, couldn't figure them out.

    I'm left with (I think): The cleaner the power plant, the more EVs and PHEVs make environmental sense. But that could be a pessimistic assessment or a hopeful one, depending on where we are on that continuum and how easy it will be to improve given the current state of technology and political will.

    In an anti-environmentalist's hands, this becomes an argument for doing less. It's cheaper to produce dirty energy and the dirtier the less sense enviro cars make. And since many of these cars are more expensive, it becomes a win-win-win for everyone to stick with the status quo.


    Is Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires a straw man argument against camping, since most campers are for fire safety? 

    Look at it this way: If you were deciding to heat your house, wouldn't you want to know the facts about the available fuels? Which cost more, which seemed to be available for the long term, which caused more CO2 pollution, particulate pollution, etc?


    Um, perhaps I'm misunderstanding your point, then.

    Or maybe you're misunderstanding mine.

    Seems to me you're laying out two issues: 1) one to do with the dirtiness of power generation; 2) and another to do with how environmentally friendly EVs and hybrids are. The cleaner the power generation, the more environmentally effective the EV.

    If I'm right about this, this seems fine to me and it's useful information.

    But it's also a bit beside the point (I think) because I don't know anyone who buys a hybrid who also thinks that, Munchausen-like, he can clean up the environment simply by driving a hybrid. This SEEMS to be your primary beef.

    Rather, most environmentalists I know are trying to do BOTH at the same time. This is what EYE mean by straw man in this case. I don't think it's like your Smokey the Bear example where you're reminding the guy to do what he knows he should be doing. Here, you're sort of encouraging him not to buy a Prius because he may have a dirty power generator.

    In terms of effecting social change, I'm not sure it makes sense to delay hybrids until we have cleaner power plants. You want people involved and thinking and acting in a certain way as soon as possible. You don't want them thinking, "What's the use in buying a Prius, I'll just be creating more pollution by putting an extra load on our dirty power generator."

    Especially as I'm not sure it's that easy for the individual to calculate the tipping point for his circumstances. IOW, maybe Vepco is too dirty; maybe not. How does he know? What does he do in the meantime?

    And what if he installs solar panels to provide most of the power for recharging his car? You may have addressed this already, but if he powers during the night and uses energy that's going to be produced ANYWAY (and pollution that's going to be produced anyway), isn't he doing some good?

    (I think you may have addressed this, but it's hard to go back from this screen and check...)


    Then I read that electrical plants weren't throwing away quite that much power because some plants could be shut down quickly. But conversion losses from coal to heat to electricity dwarfed anything that a few EVs would use. And the EV-1s were being crushed.

    Okay, so I see you wrote this, but I'm not sure what it means.

    Just speaking for non-technical me, it would be helpful if you were more explanatory with your acronyms and some of your technical explanations. Pretend your reader is a dunce. You can picture me, if you like.


    It's not coal (in yellow.) Far far far more natural gas has been added than coal, every year for 20 years.

    And also, far more renewables than coal added, every year for a decade.

    So, the net additions have a carbon intensity of 200-400.

    Looks like PHEV's win on lifecycle GHG's, less than 1/2 that of conventional cars.

    Who knew? Great news, eh?

    Coal in yellow. From the US-EIA.


    But the supply of natural gas has been propped up with hydraulic fracturing. What happens when those play out?



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