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    Republicans Split Over Medicaid Expansion in Florida

    The debate over whether to continue the refusal to expand Medicaid or go to Washington with a program proposal has caused a split in the Republicans in Tallahassee.  They are now facing a budgetary crises because LIP (Low Income Pool) a grant to help cover the cost of healthcare for the uninsured will expire June 30. The State of Florida was told a year ago by the CMS that this funding would expire but Rick Scott included it in the budget for this year.  

    Florida was given one year expansion of LIP last year to help the state move towards a Medicaid expansion program. The letter that was sent to Florida at that time can be read here.

    http://www.medicaid.gov/Medicaid-CHIP-Program-Information/By-Topics/Waivers/1115/downloads/fl/Managed-Medical-Assistance-MMA/fl-medicaid-reform-implement-renewal-req-ltr-04112014.pdf

    Rick Scott at that time was in favor of expanding Medicaid while he was running for a second term but has since changed his mind. This is not playing well with the insurance industry and health care industry. Hospitals in the state will have to lay off employees and cut services, also the insurance providers will lose revenue that would come in from new coverage. This will make health care cost more in the state. 

    Also right now, in Florida, Governor Rick Scott wants to enact hundreds of millions of dollars in annual tax cuts.

    The budget room for those tax cuts, in other words, exists because the federal government is spending money—money that comes with no guarantee—in a way that bolsters Florida’s resistance to Obamacare.

    Not keen on financing opposition to itself, the Obama administration is leaning toward ending this sweet arrangement, and phasing out the Low Income Pool, which has in any case grown obsolete in a world where Florida can adopt the Medicaid expansion and provide insurance to nearly a million of its poor citizens.

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121563/rick-scott-medicaid-expansion-opposition-killing-his-tax-cuts

    In other words, Scott wants LIP to finance his tax cuts.  He and the Legislature will have to decide if they want the tax cuts they will have to take a form of Medicaid expansion or turn down the Medicaid and give up the tax cuts. 

    The State Senate has worked on a program to take to Washington under the leadership of Andy Gardiner (R-Orlando) that will cover 800,000 Floridians with private insurance. Some state have done this type of program using Medicaid expansion funds with the approval of Washington. The Senate bill passed 36 - 0 but the lower chamber refuses to budge on this and Scott has flipped back to a no. 

    In an interview with me, Republican state senate president Andy Gardiner — the leader of Senate Republicans, who want the Medicaid expansion — essentially confirmed that the resistance to it is putting tax cuts, and the entire state budget, in peril.

    “It really puts everything at risk,” Gardiner said. “It jeopardizes the tax cuts, it jeopardizes increases in education funding, it jeopardizes our priorities.”

    The short version of the dispute is as follows. Florida has been negotiating with the Obama administration over expanding Medicaid in the state to some 800,000 people under the Affordable Care Act. But Governor Rick Scott seriously complicated things the other day when he pulled back his previous support for the expansion.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/04/08/gop-governors-resistance-to-obamacare-is-so-strong-that-its-jeopardizing-his-quest-for-tax-cuts/

    In walks American For Prosperity, a Koch Brothers. backed group, lobbying against the Medicaid expansion, into the fray.  They sent mailers out to districts to all the supporters of the Senate Bill SB7044 for Medicaid expansion. Here is the mailer that was sent out in the Orlando area in Gardiner's district last month.

    http://v6mx3476r2b25580w4eit4uv.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/AFPFL-SenateOpposeMedicaid6x9-GardinerSD13.pdf

    They have also started running TV ads.  Rick Scott wants to run for Senate in 2018 and wants the Koch Bros. support, so he backed off of his support of expansion. 

     

     

    The local activist and lobbyist are running their own campaign.  In fact they have been at it before the last election. The group is called A Healthy Florida Works that is made up of Healthcare providers, Insurance, local Chambers of Commerce and business. Here is a sample of the current ads they are running. 

     

    These Mayors are all Democrats in the Tampa bay area.  They are all heavy weight politically. But it shows the bipartisan support for this bill.

     

     

    They are also running 30 second spots for all the Republican Senators that have supported this bill. All the ads are just like this one. 

     

     

    This fight is really heating up and the legislative session is almost over with.  No budget has passed and Rick Scott has threaten to call a special session.  There was a special closed door meeting on Tuesday with the lower chamber Republicans. Florida has a Sunshine Law the prevents more then 3 legislators to meet behind closed doors.  The media was locked out but a reporter listen through the crack in the door. What it shows is that there must be a split in the lower chamber Republicans on this. All that was said was to rally them to stand firm. You can watch the local news coverage of this closed door session. it gives you a better idea how bad things are getting.

    http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/28864125/republican-lawmakers-lock-public-out-of-medicaid-meeting  

    In the meantime Rick Scotts answer to this is to go to court. 

     In February, CMS told Florida that the funding, as they’d indicated a year earlier, would not be renewed. Panic ensued, which led to the most recent development: Rick Scott is suing the Obama administration to compel CMS to renew the LIP funding, claiming that the administration is trying to coerce Florida to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

    Since his initial opposition, Scott’s gone back and forth on whether he supports expanding Medicaid, but at the moment he’s against it, and he’s using the expiration of the LIP funding as justification for saying no. “The same federal government that offers some money for a program is walking away from another health care program,” Scott said a couple of weeks ago. “How can you feel comfortable picking up another federal program when they are walking away from an existing program?”

    That’s nonsense. The LIP funding, as noted, is subject to the discretion of CMS. Funding for expanded Medicaid is backed by the force of law. Even Republicans in the state aren’t buying it. “The federal government has no obligation to provide LIP funding, or to work within our timeframe,” the Republican president of the Florida Senate said in a statement. The bottom line is that Scott very much wants federal healthcare funding. What he doesn’t want, as Greg Sargent observes, is for that funding to be associated with “Obamacare.”

    http://www.salon.com/2015/04/20/rick_scott%E2%80%99s_obamacare_debacle_florida_man_traps_himself_in_wholly_unnecessary_medicaid_fight/

    This is going to backfire.  They can drag this out in special sessions and stay at a impasse because of Koch money but reality is the state will lose quality health care for even the people who can pay. People will notice when the local ER closes. 

    Why give more tax breaks?  We are losing millionaires in South Florida. The Villages have picked up some but on the whole Florida is circling the drain. 

    The tri-county region had about 9,000 fewer millionaire households in 2014 compared with two years earlier — even as the population grew by 87,181 households, estimates Phoenix Affluent Market, a marketing research company that tracks affluent and high-net-worth Americans.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/personal-finance/fl-south-florida-millionaires-20150416-story.html

      

     

     

    Comments

    I'm going back to the 60's on this, but I remember all my civic's lessons reinforced governments live by tax revenues. All governments, be they federal,state or local county/city, need to levy taxes on the public,  as well as business and industry in their domain in order to provide the necessary public services the public expected and demanded. Because without them chaos and anarchy would rule the roost.

     

    Nowadays, we have tea-party/bangers who insist on lower taxes and less government which confuses me. Governments are necessary to create the tax revenue flow and that revenue flow should be adequate enough to service the services the public demands. Instead, these uneducated people prefer to cut the revenue flow, then take an axe to whatever service comes to mind first all while hoping the federal government will step in and provide the necessary funds the state just cut so the service can continue. And oddly enough, they complain the federal government is too bloated and spends tax revenues unwisely and needs to tighten their belts.

     

    It would be pointless to say we sit back and let them have their way and when the bottom falls out perhaps they'll finally get the message,  but with Clinton going ultra-conservative in his 2nd term and 2 terms of W which ended in a financial collapse, they still blamed liberals.

     

    Too bad no one took Gingrich on his idea of a one-way trip to colonize Mars.

     


    In Florida the elderly retirees depend on Medicaid to help cover nursing home care.  Most out live their savings and there isn't much left to pass on to the kids, so Medicaid recovery law don't matter after they are gone. People will not move here to retire if they know that there is limited Medicaid or none at all. 

    Hospitals have made it clear that they have set costs and a drop in revenue means a cut in services like ER and heart trauma centers.  Trauma Centers will be hundred miles away and patients will be life flighted.  Which will add to cost and risk. 

    Florida Blue, which is Blue Cross and Blue Shield, is pushing hard for a Medicaid expansion and have a team of lobbyists in Tallahassee.  I don't see the lower chamber sticking together on this for too long following the ideologues. The glue that has held the GOP in Florida has been racism the last 7 years.  The price for that is getting expensive and these idiots will still be in office after a new president has taken office.   


    Somehow the people who vote need to start feeling the pain of the small government they seem to want, because I can about guarantee they don't want what they think they want. The problems are 1) the uber-wealthy are insulated from that pain, and 2) they've convinced their minions that if they keep voting to protect them, they will take care of them. What a scam! 


    We face voter suppression here.  It is expensive to renew your driver license if you came from out of state.  Depending on how many documents you have to get from out of state courthouses. It can be quite expensive if you are a women and have been married more then once because you have to trace your name back to your birth certificate with court and marriage documents. It did have an effect in the midterms. It sounded good to Republican voters to make everyone have ID's but what most did not bargain for was the cost and time for themselves to get everything together. I hear a lot of complaints on that because they are now facing renewal. I was lucky because I only had one husband and it still cost me with documents $125 to renew my driver license. Men only have to produce a birth certificate and proof of residency. This has been effective in this state in the last election. This is a one time ordeal so once you have done this you don't have to do it every time. How effective will it be in future elections? Not as much because people will eventually get it together economically to be able to keep driving and to vote. Women will keep their maiden names. 

     


    The GOP arithmetic is if they cut $1000 in medical/aid services for the working poor or the middle class, they cut taxes by $2000 on higher income brackets. 

    This formula makes the chance of a surplus below zero, and the chance of further deficits guaranteed.

    Surpluses would imply there is money for government to do something with, infrastructure or to help people, which is anathema to the GOP, as it refutes their thesis that government can't help anyone or do anything good.


    What I am taking from all this is that there is big cracks and division in the GOP.  This is a hopeful sign that they are losing ground with voters. They are not all in lock step. 


    This is complicated.

     

    I go from Medicaid to Medicare in eight days.

    I lose $105 a month on Medicare.

    Supposedly I get a break on my subsidized housing. But so far that amounts to ten bucks?

    I have to pay my fair share?

    But it is a big deal when I lose ten percent of my monies that I paid for.

    I will survive.

     


    Have you done part D yet?  Make sure you check all the plans in your area to see if they cover your meds.  You can do that on the part D site on your computer. Not all plans cover everything. You have to figure out what your best option. 


    They just give me this in my state.

    I am covered and I have not taken one drug in two years?

    I am covered.

    You know, I received five hundred pages in information from the government in the last four weeks.

    It is all good.

    I could use some dental.

    But it is all gooooooooooooood.

     


    Just wait until open season every fall, you will get tons of mail again. 

    I am glad you are not on meds now. I forget that I have known you for 5+ years. And things do change. 

    I am hoping that the upper chamber in this state continues to push for Medicaid and lets the budget fall apart.  This is worth letting the state shut down. School will be out then so it won't effect me much. People are dying so it is worth a shut down to save them. 


    I am confused. Florida does not have a state income tax, so how can they cut what doesn't exist?  I am also confused about something else:  How could anyone in their right mind vote for Rick Scott?

    Excellent article, BTW, and extremely well-written and put together. 


    "Excellent article, BTW, and extremely well-written and put together."

    I second that wholeheartedly.


    There are property tax and sales tax.  Businesses are also charged impact fees and service fees.

    During the late 1990's, Florida froze property taxes to be only raised 3% a year on homestead property. It was put on the state ballot to help JEB win his election.  It passed with a super majority but is an unfair system.  Any home owner at that time would not face higher property increases over 3% a year.  Great little pony give away at the time for home stead property owners.  You have to own your property and live in it for 3 years to get homestead statues.  This protects your property from loosing it to bankruptcy.  

    This has many problems.  One of them business don't get homestead.  The distribution of taxes are higher for new home owners rental and businesses. It sounded so great to the 25% of the population of retirees at the time  Now Florida has 16% of the population is retirees. You buy a home that has the same appraised value as the house next door only that family has been there for 20 years and the owner that you are buying from has been there just as long you will find you are going to pay 5 times more in property taxes that they did.  It can turn out to be the biggest part of your house payment. Rental property and business property pay rates higher then they would if everyone paid the same. So depending on when you bought your home depends on what rate you pay. 

    I see no reason to give tax breaks on business and high end homes unless you fix the unfairness of the system or bring in a income tax to balance the fairness of tax burden.  

    Rick Scott promised to bring in Medicaid and voter suppression was the reason he won. The northern end of the state still have people who have bed sheets hanging in their closets.  It is known as the plantation belt of Florida. 


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