MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
Do you have the sense that political analysts have no clue about how what drives elections anymore? Here's a poly sci professor with a different take and more hopeful forecast for 2020.
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I was hoping to get something out of this but I haven't. I'm not buying at least not until I see more convincing elucidation of what she's saying about alternating turnout in decisive districts. Seems to me she just got lucky on one prediction and that it's all about liking Trump or hating Trump and no other examples. We know Trump has been divisive, DOH. What else is new? At the end of the article there's more of her fails. Just not at all convincing.
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/06/2020 - 7:13pm
AA, I agree that her forecast record is thin, and I take her 2020 predictions with plenty of salt. But there's something to be said for the argument that most pundits are overly wedded to a 20th century election model that seems increasingly irrelevant in the 21st century. Do swing voters even matter anymore? Is ideology still relevant? Most evocative to me was her explanation that the 2016 electorate was composed of different people from the 2008 electorate. It's not that the same voters switched sides; it's that different voters went to the polls.
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/06/2020 - 11:41pm
Seeing this, I am reminded that one thing that can get infrequent voters to turn out is what he's labeling here as the Oprah or Judge Judy factor:
Fans of a celeb trust that they know the celeb's heart and that it's simpatico. But they don't know or trust politicians. If the celeb they trust is a passionate endorser, they make it a point to turn out.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 2:09am
p.s. Yes, this phenomenon always been with us in some form, but we never had anything like the *influencer* phenomenon of current times.There's constant formation of new tribes based not on familial ties or ethnicity but on taste and "likes". (And Oprah is an influencer progenitor, people fucking read what Oprah recommends. How Judge Judy decides informs moral lessons that fans effect. And yes, of course, after watching Trump say "you're fired" so many times, fans figure he's the one that finally will be able to rid them of the swamp, and they get off the couch to vote.)
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 3:08am
Yes, but...the influencers aren't some mighty gods on Mount Olympus commanding swarms of disciples. They're part of the swarm. Whatever it is that drives average voters to embrace a candidate also drives influencers to endorse them. In other words, the influencers don't create political trends, they just amplify the effects.
by Michael Wolraich on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 9:55am
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 10:42am
Primaries, who needs them? Eventually fuggedabout political parties, too, they're just temporary name tag?
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 7:41pm
He has a point - where's the internet brought us? We don't even know who's influencing what on Facebook - most young programmers are progressive, but they're coding for the Dark State, yet there's no visibility - all our data R belong 2 them.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 11:18pm
Largely agree with her. I'd add that when Bradley launched in 1999, the left largely dropped their agenda on him - it wasn't that he'd persuaded anyone - he was suitable to carry the mantle of their wishes. Bernie's more invested in the actual policies, but I don't think anyone's being persuaded so much by policies - they identify with their clique and the policies obviously were going to sound good or they mildly adapt.
The Republicans have been playing the "just show up" game with abandon - marginalizing the opposition and making their clques the most cultural. But sure, Obama was a cultural phenom, not a policies guy. 3 very different people would interpret his ideas by their own wishes - very much the blind man and the elephant. Look at how easy "conservatives" will plug in a non-conservative policy as justification.
The biggest outcome of the impeachment ordeal would be a set of GOP/Independents reviving their allegiance values - perhaps to stay home, perhaps to revive the moderate wing. But the true believers are voting for smashball, not a specific policy. Some people just want to see the world burn. Similarly, Liz Warren needs to stop trying to out-Bernie Bernie, and instead build her aura - tougher for a woman, but she's much closer than most, and if she gets it right for women especially, they *will* show up.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 5:22am
I think you're right about Warren. It wasn't that she emulated Bernie. She's genuinely left-wing. But I think it would have been better for her to stake out a distinct space. I suppose that there's still time, but not much.
by Michael Wolraich on Fri, 02/07/2020 - 9:46am