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  • Christmas is a federal holiday, but Easter is not—no doubt because it always falls on a Sunday.

  • In this situation I am in, I ask myself: WWJD? I do strongly believe what he would do is say: true followers of my father should not rely upon on the nearly heretical ...

  • Thanks for the clarification. Am I the only one that laughs at Bill Kristol/Billy Crystal?

  • True, but...

    It would appear your quoting Kristol was context-free and, in effect, seconded some factually incorrect assertions, e.g., the ethnic make up of the ACLU and its goals.

    Moreover, his assertions about Jews pre-War and Jews post-War appear to be made up out of whole cloth...

    by Peter Schwartz 15 min 46 sec ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Well, as a non-Jew who has grown up and lived in communities where there was little visible Jewish culture/religion, my understanding of Jews and the Left is mostly what I have gleaned consciously and subconsciously from the arts and academic studies, and lets face it, stand-up comedians. John...

    by Another Trope 19 min 21 sec ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Irving was the dad, and is much more renowned in academic circles as sorta the dad of neoconservatism as well; Bill is the son and more well known in pop culture, for his teevee appearances and newspaper columns and yes, for his smirk. I...

    by artappraiser 1 hour 11 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • If there is choice for each yet to be made, then it is unknown what that choice will be, and therefore the nature of future events are unknown, and therefore cannot be foretold.

  • Losing at the midterm was a message.

    Thing is, the Democratic party misread the message, to late, as they might find now.

    What do you think the message was, Resistance?

  • Beautiful poem. The trinity?

    by Peter Schwartz 1 hour 41 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Excellent perspective.

  • Here's the CNN link.

    by Verified Atheist 2 hours 10 min ago in Hatred in a Lovely Church
  • I finally steeled up my nerve to watch it, and looking behind him, I thought of this. I mean seriously, where's the choir? OK, I know sometimes choirs leave after singing, but that's usually the exception, especially for what would...

    by Verified Atheist 2 hours 17 min ago in Hatred in a Lovely Church
  • The only thing that remains is to break the glass ceiling in... curling.

    by PeraclesPlease 2 hours 21 min ago in Canada's Got Talent!
  • I'm not sure if you're referring to the Pony Express' "success" or its failure… wink

  • I'm not dissing real estate.

    Nor am I plugging for bonds and stocks.

    But NO asset can increase in value, especially at that speed, forever.

    That includes stocks and bonds and gold in particular.

  • The ultimate problem here is that despite the good faith efforts of so many of you to help the blogger understand the significance of what she wrote, the blogger just doesn't get it.  She seems to believe that the only thing she did wrong--maybe--was to hurt my feelings or that perhaps...

    by bslev 3 hours 9 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • It's always a bad idea for a police officer to make a situation worse. The officer should have advised the woman that refusing to acknowledge the ticket was a crime and that he would testify in court that she did refuse to sign. (presumably he had it on car cam.)  but arresting her on...

    by Erica (not verified) 3 hours 17 min ago in Police to SCOTUS: Need Blank Check to Tase Anyone
  • I think you should have called the cops. It's an expression of concern. Granted, you don't know what the situation was, but that's what the police are supposed to figure out when they get there. In some cases you can even ask for a call back or info about how the situation resolved...

    by Erica (not verified) 3 hours 50 min ago in Homes and Castles
  • I've got no problem with celebrating Christmas. Heck, as I probably mentioned on that thread, I celebrate Christmas myself. (I imagine religious Jews would have a harder time celebrating it. However, none of them that I know of would have a problem with someone else celebrating it.)

    ...

  • To be honest, your excerpts are my first introduction to the author (at least that I remember). Hopefully they'll be my last exposure to him as well. Others mentioned him being the son of the more famous Kristol (Billy, right?), but even in his case I'm not that familiar with his writing...

    by Verified Atheist 4 hours 20 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Of course you have free will. You get a choice, who you'll listen to. 

    You're free to choose.  A wide and spacious road leading to death or the narrow one leading to Life. 

    Come into the light or stay in the...

  • "Ghengis is one of those holier-than-thou whiners on the left." - It's a shame John is an uncultured pig, but I'll try to be more gracious -

    ...

  • I can't be sure, but I think there's also a Northeast tilt towards the discussion.

    If you were in NY, you have a support group for being Jewish.

    If in Alabama, say, you're an outsider.

    And yeah, 30 days starting at Thanksgiving focused on someone else's major...

    by PeraclesPlease 9 hours 44 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Rabbits are not asking for additional rights, only EQUAL rights. Here I'm leading you down the rabbit hole - but don't worry, we're all virgins in some areas.

    Marriage has been traditionally between man and women. Gays are asking to extend the definition to 2 men or 2 women....

  • Wow, take a heartless jab at Sitting Bull while you're at it. Yeah, he should have acquiesced, just let the government put his people on reservations, and put in some slot machines to draw tourists. Martin Luther King should have just accepted those shoe shining jobs - better some employment...

  • RELIGIOUS FRAUDS

    JOHN ADAMS, ONE OF THIS NATION’S FOUNDING FATHERS, SPEAKS ON HOW RELIGIOUS FRAUDS USE CHRISTIANITY:

    “Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds...
    by Wattree 10 hours 8 min ago in Dr. Boyce Watkins on Gay Rights
  • RM,

    I completely agree. The most potent weapon of ultraconservative  ideologues is divide and conquer, and that's what's so amazingly myopic about Watkin's comments. He said that while he supports the right...

    by Wattree 10 hours 12 min ago in Dr. Boyce Watkins on Gay Rights
  • I've always wondered what became of the Lakota. Thanks for sorting that out for me.

    by kyle flynn 10 hours 17 min ago in Dr. Boyce Watkins on Gay Rights
  • Qnonymous,

    I don't know anything about the video you referenced. I quoted a remark that Watkins made on Facebook. And he quotation didn't require context.  He said what he said. How much...

    by Wattree 10 hours 24 min ago in Dr. Boyce Watkins on Gay Rights
  • The chronicle of these events were foretold

    Thus no one has free will.  Events will occur as they are suppose to occur as part of God's plan.  So everyone just be like Resistance and observe - for this is part of God's plan.  God has sent...

  • Your reply is improperly applied.  

    Art It is not revenge, it is insight

    THIS IS NOT MY WAR.  I DO NOT HOPE FOR REVOLUTION....     ITS COMING ON ITS OWN.

    THAT TOO WAS PROPHESIED   ...

  • Oops.  I hit "send" twice again.  Sorry.

     

     

  • John is a friend of mine, and I thank you for making him feel welcome.  It's a shame that others couldn't bring themselves to be more gracious, but I suppose that's the nature of the beast. 

    I suppose we become too insulated here, maybe. 

     

    ...

  • Did Obama authorize? 

    Something happened in America? 

    ...

  • Peracles,

    First you asked why I challenge person's ability to think just because they disagree with my point of view.  Then you go one to say the following:

    "If a man can marry a man, why can't I marry two women I love...

    by Wattree 11 hours 25 min ago in Dr. Boyce Watkins on Gay Rights
  • Yeah, I don't think you're getting it. It's not who you quote and what joke you make or don't make. These are just symptoms. It's the whole attitude that people are objecting to. That attitude comes through as clearly in this last comment as in the rest.
    by Genghis 11 hours 39 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • probably not--more from the article:

    ....But experts said NATO summit protesters angry about the war in Afghanistan got to have their say, while the Chicago police were restrained, and always seemed to be one step ahead of the demonstrators....

  • Just a matter of time 

    ...

  • Not exactly comparable-

    Chicago police erase 1968 stain at last with NATO summit

    By Andrew Stern
    CHICAGO | Tue May 22, 2012 9:18pm EDT
    ...

  • Something happened in Boston 

    Paul Revere's Engraving of the Boston Massacre

  • Actually, after reading the thread, I was thinking maybe a short round of politically incorrect ethnic jokes might tie up the thread quite nicely....you know, like: a rabbi and priest walk into a bar where a Polish plumber is unsuccessfully trying to turn on the light bulbs on a Christmas tree...

    by artappraiser 12 hours 39 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Not really.

    Perhaps I should not have excerpted Kristol but I did not know there was so much antipathy from so many here toward him.  Toward Bill, sure, who hasn't wanted like to wipe that smirk off his face from time to time.  

    And maybe I should not have tried...

    by EmmaZahn 13 hours 28 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • As my black friend Noam Chomsky would say, "Got it."

    by acanuck 14 hours 11 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I have to admit, I  got caught up in the juvenile taunting and was admonished by G.

    Personally I thought you (Q), Sleepin Jesus, Peracles P ,  DiJ and DanK to name but a few;  made ...

  • Yes, several of you took exception to whom and what I quoted which is rather disturbing.  Now you being a Verified Atheist somewhat explains your objections which we can discuss later.  You did annotate the excerpt but I still feel you rejected the author before considering the...

    by EmmaZahn 14 hours 14 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Your point about Marx's negative view of Judaism is correct but was even more sharply delineated than your comment suggests. In his "On the Jewish Question" (an early writing:1843) he said the following:

    As soon as society succeeds in abolishing the ...

    by moat 14 hours 31 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Perhaps NC should just give out an award to who was the most responsible in passing Amendment 1, as it appears all NC 'holy' people seems to be jousting for the position.  As someone from outside of your area (and sympathetic to your revulsion), I'm not fooled.  The chorus...

    by Anonymous (not verified) 15 hours 26 min ago in Hatred in a Lovely Church
  • Just to be clear—what I found laughable about that last bit was the "95 percent". Wikipedia puts it at 76-80%, and that's consistent with what most other people report. Sure, perhaps Kristol was talking...

    by Verified Atheist 15 hours 32 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Ramona. You and TMac and Aunt Sam came straight onto this blog, and each one of you attacked people, and on a personal basis. It's just that you 3 don't seem to get that what you're doing is not a political argument you're making, it's a personal attack. And after trying to...

    by Qnonymous (not verified) 15 hours 37 min ago in Fair Weather Dems will be the Death of Us Yet
  • Of course. But when it all comes together--the "my friends," the slang, the right-wing Jewish writer criticizing Jews, and the war on Christmas--that's a whole lot of context. See my last reply to Emma.

    by Genghis 15 hours 39 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I appreciate your asking, seriously. I thought that I was doing that in my original reply, but I'll try to be plainer.

    First off, no one is trying to turn dag into a daytime talk show. Bruce just mentioned his experience to explain his perception of American Judaism, helpfully I...

    by Genghis 15 hours 52 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • That is exactly what I meant, acanuck, and thank you for the links.

    by flowerchild 16 hours 5 min ago in WTF, Quebec?
  • Read what I wrote up above at 3:09 pm (with the timestamp provided solely for search purposes).

    I don't like it when anyone at dagblog insults someone else (especially when I'm doing the insulting), but it's not unusual, so that particular insult towards Bruce is something I...

    by Verified Atheist 16 hours 13 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • You people are hilarious!  Your tricks are so transparent.  (Do you travel in packs everywhere you go?)

    No, Dijamo, I don't plan on responding to Quinn.  There is no responding to Quinn, there is only feeding his tiresome maw until he regurgitates bile.  There was...

  • Today's demo:

    http://www...

    by acanuck 17 hours 5 min ago in WTF, Quebec?
  • Weird thread, indeed.

    Since everyone is fighting with everyone else, let me quibble with Genghis's admonition about the offensiveness of non-Jews quoting Jews about Jews.

    Surely, I can write, "Noam Chomsky says ... ," right...

    by acanuck 17 hours 13 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I kind of came in when all this stuff was being thrown around, and saw the "baiting the majority bear" side comments, and that was what I was addressing - the debate in this particular side thread being does one attempt to push secularization of politics full steam ahead or does one...

    by Another Trope 17 hours 23 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Ramona, respect (or acknowledging error) from you is something I would never expect based on past history, so I doubt that's what Quinn is looking for.  Nor is he looking for validation.  Quinn's as confident in what he's done for his causes as I'm sure you are in...

    by Dijamo * (not verified) 17 hours 44 min ago in Fair Weather Dems will be the Death of Us Yet
  • I do often seem to have the same problem as Cassandra.  :-/

    Really.  Not 100% but more often right than wrong about trends.  

    Not really sure what you find offensive except maybe hurting bslev's feelings.  Can you be quite specific about that, please.

    ...
    by EmmaZahn 17 hours 51 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Respect.  You want respect.  You.  You want respect.

    I'm speechless.

    Also.

    I'm done.

  • Obviously I am interested.  How many threads have I participated in to this extent?  I really, really, really do not understand.  

    Okay, I probably should not have hurt Bruce's feelings but the Christmas thing does irk and Irving Kristol, a Jew, offers a different...

    by EmmaZahn 18 hours 3 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • We're reviving that custom, PP.

    Stand by...

    by Peter Schwartz 18 hours 3 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • The magazine article bothered me far more than the cage match, as I'm quite convinced both of you know how to defend yourselves. What bothers me about the article is that you appear to be endorsing many (most?) of its views, and you have not distanced yourself from any of the obnoxious...

    by Verified Atheist 18 hours 10 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Maybe you missed the edit where I said this comment was about the magazine article and not the bslev v EmmaZahn cage match.

     

    by EmmaZahn 18 hours 31 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • From memory:

    From perfect grief 

    there need not be

    wisdom or even memory

    one thing then learnt 

    remains to me

    the woodspurge has a cup of three.

     -- Gabriel Rosseti

     

    by EmmaZahn 18 hours 34 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I hope you understand that there's a huge difference between not being pro-Israel (or even being anti-Israel) and what you wrote up above, both specifically about Bruce and more generically what you quoted from Irving Kristol. I'm all for respecting Christian's rights to be...

    by Verified Atheist 18 hours 35 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • FWIW.  The following is a comment on the magazine article -- not the other contretemps.

    For most of my life I was reflexively pro-Israel.  Never even considered any alternative.  

    I admired its spunkiness, its defiance and its daring.  Entebbe, Munich, Osirik....

    by EmmaZahn 18 hours 36 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Thanks. I agree with you that higher education should be totally free and available to all, but that we have to not only pick our battles but also pick how we're willing to fight.

    by Verified Atheist 18 hours 39 min ago in WTF, Quebec?
  • Well, now that this has filtered through the old thinkolater, I have to say this is the WEIRDEST thread I've participated in in a long time.

    First, my apologies to Emma for using bad words and a harsh tone toward her.

    Second, it's clear (to me anyway) that something in what...

    by Peter Schwartz 18 hours 44 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • In principle, higher education should be totally free and available to all. Same for heath care. Canada has come close to achieving the latter, but it's a balancing act as to where the tax dollars go. Health care is a universal...

    by acanuck 18 hours 49 min ago in WTF, Quebec?
  • I wonder what Destor would have done if he walked by and heard you two fighting?

    by Donal 19 hours 12 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I have nothing to discuss with you Emma.  And I reserve the right to address others concerning what I think.  I am not interested in what you think.  So go ahead and change this into a legitimate debate about x-mas, or about whether I sought sympathy because of what I felt when I...

    by bslev 19 hours 14 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Emma, no one baited any bears here. No one launched any crusades. No one but you said a thing about any Establishment clause. Bruce made one reference to his Christmas experience as a child. I added my own in response to your weird insinuation that Jewish parents just made it all up. If there is...

    by Genghis 19 hours 15 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Yeah, but what school is it?

    by Donal 19 hours 19 min ago in Is the Occupy Movement Over?
  • And you never once tried to hit me directly did you.

    At least I am willing to fight my own fights.  /scoff

    by EmmaZahn 19 hours 21 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • My wife actually called me to ask if she should buy shares, so there must have been quite a frenzy on the daytime talk shows. I told her it would be even worse than buying Lotto.

    by Donal 19 hours 24 min ago in Anyone here buy Facebook? Sucker!
  • A combination is probably the best strategy.  Get enough power to prevent the worst abuses then win hearts and minds over time.

    ...

    by Verified Atheist 19 hours 29 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • AT,

    Perhaps you are more rational and could shed light on what the debate is.  I wasn't debating anything when all this stuff was thrust upon me, and certainly not anything about Christmas. 

     

    by bslev 19 hours 30 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Trope (below) is right.  It is something like the dispute over gay marriage versus civil union, although personally I want to see both lose their special property/contract rights status.

    When you want to change something what should you do first  Win hearts and minds to your...

    by EmmaZahn 19 hours 38 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • The level of violence (verbal, emotional and physical) that some people find to be normal (ie just the way things are) sometimes is rather jaw dropping.  Those who are caught up in abusive relationships can act in "strange" ways. 

    I once lived next to a couple who were...

    by Another Trope 19 hours 38 min ago in Homes and Castles
  • Easy now Schwartz.  You're the good cop, stick to the script!

    by bslev 19 hours 42 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Perhaps because of Jewish guilt (snark), I was beginning to feel badly about Emma getting pounded on.  But then I just read her explanation of her comment to Genghis, something about that she would "feel bad" for Bruce. . .if something or other .  I am not asking anyone to...

    by bslev 19 hours 43 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Don't sell yourself short Peracles. wink

    by bslev 19 hours 48 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • Peter,

    I will try to respond later.  Just got to the Marine Air Terminal at LGA (best place to get a flight in the Big Apple).  Funny thing, if you've ever been here you know there's a passageway to the gates where there are a bunch of free magazines for passengers to...

    by bslev 19 hours 49 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I hope, Donal, that nothing I wrote betrayed even the slightest sympathy for the idiots swept up in Facebook frenzy. Rule of thumb: If you don't know what EBITDA stands for, stuff your money under your mattress.

    by acanuck 19 hours 53 min ago in Anyone here buy Facebook? Sucker!
  • This sounds a lot like the debate between the proponents of same-sex unions, with one side saying now wasn't the time to push the marriage issue and instead push for civil unions, and the other side claiming it was time to stand up for all of one's rights.

    by Another Trope 19 hours 55 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • If you all keep baiting the majority bear because of some misguided crusade against their happiest holiday because of 'childhood traumas', you risk losing...

    by Verified Atheist 20 hours 3 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • This is one helluva human-interest story. Try telling me there isn't a book, movie and/or reality series looming. Talackova has achieved what anyone who enters a beauty competition aims for -- visibility and name recognition -- in spades. She's...

    by acanuck 20 hours 3 min ago in Canada's Got Talent!
  • sympathetic yes.  But the key is how does that sympathy get translated into real life opinions, decisions, and actions.  Something like the occupy movement depends upon not only active participation, but sustained active participation.  It requires the people involved to be...

    by Another Trope 20 hours 9 min ago in Is the Occupy Movement Over?
  • Thanks for the suggestions, Genghis.  Let's take them one by one.

    1.  In this case, I quoted a Jewish source because Bruce's comment reminded me of the section I excerpted not to establish some kind of Jewish cred.  As to saying the same thing in my own voice....

    by EmmaZahn 20 hours 17 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I grew up in Weston, Connecticut, a bedroom suburb of New York. There were a number of Jews there, all very secular and working in law and media, etc.

    It was the classic New England town with white church steeples. No synagogues except one, eventually, one town over.

    My parents,...

    by Peter Schwartz 20 hours 20 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • This is all too complex for me.

    What happened to the good old days when Jews just killed Christ and ate Christian babies? Simple to understand, simple to get riled up. Killing Christmas? Almost like conspiracy theory - have to find the grassy knoll somewhere.

    PS - snark.

    by PeraclesPlease 20 hours 21 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • I see the data, but I'm curious about your opinion: do you find the tuition increases reasonable? Do you think there's a better option? (These are genuine, non-leading questions from someone completely unfamiliar with what's been going on in Canadian schools.)

    by Verified Atheist 20 hours 36 min ago in WTF, Quebec?
  • If you're referring to students' ability to make jokes about anything, I'd say the picture might be reflective. If you're talking about actual student attitudes, I'd say it's very unreflective. Even at UVA, which is a comparatively conservative school, I think you'll...

  • By WTF, flowerchild, I presume you mean, "Why the draconian anti-protest law?" I agree that simply banning or strictly limiting demonstrations won't end the unrest. The law does in a way end the boycott of classes...

    by acanuck 20 hours 41 min ago in WTF, Quebec?
  • Which is all going around the point of me posting the picture, which is that one choose to go onto the ten random public universities today, just how much real socio-political activism along the line of the occupy movement is one going to find?  How many students will one find trying to...

    by Another Trope 20 hours 45 min ago in Is the Occupy Movement Over?
  • Next we can move on to Kevin MacDonald's trilogy.

    The same pile of shit is always slapping against the side of the boat.

    by Peter Schwartz 20 hours 50 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • No, Emma, one thing I do do is read the articles people post. You can see my comments below.

     I have to say your post is one of the cruelest I've seen in a while--not just nasty, not just stupid, but out and out cruel.

    Here you have Bruce talking about his childhood. The...

    by Peter Schwartz 20 hours 54 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left
  • PPS Sorry, I mean Irving Kristol. Not that the apple fell far from the tree.

    by Genghis 20 hours 56 min ago in The End of the Jewish Left

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