wws's picture

    Northern Exposure

    Some harsh words were said all round during the past week: about the South and  about Southerners, about those who - whether ancestrally or personally -- have been hurt in the past by an evolving, but still flawed southern culture.  Those of us who participated in these threads agreed on little, but we did demonstrate that all persons involved in the ongoing adjustments in perspective of both whites and African-Americans have both a reasoned response, as well as a visceral response, as we have had since our histories were joined by the advent of slavery.

    I'd like to leave the next round of that discussion for another day. Instead, I'd like to draw the attention of all of you who have not already read it to the five part series written in the NYT by Errol Morris, entitled "Whose Father Was He?"  A series that raises peripheral, essential issues about scruples, about values, about what means something, if not everything, no matter where one calls home.

    It is my understanding that multiple links at TPM, per thread, are non starters, so I connect you to part five of this series, hoping that you will scroll down to the list of parts one through four so that you can start at the beginning:

     

    http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/whose-father-was-he-part-five/

     

    Let me know what you think about the context, not to mention the heros and villains, that are illustrated in this series. Because I'm interested, as I believe y'all are interested,  in the double helix that evolves and surrounds a mainline of truth.

     

     

    Comments

    Haven't read the article(s) yet. Soon... Note: FYI, the restriction to two links is in the 'comments' WW. You can put a 'Lot-O-Links' in the body of the blog proper. off to read now


    Well that was an interesting read. From the devil/angel persona of Dr. Bourne, and the wicked house mother of a Civil War orphan's home, with the orphan's shackled in leg irons. All from a photograph found on an 'unknown soldier'. I was drawn to wondering whether information will be more or less retrievable in the future with so much of our correspondence digitized. Will We as individuals preserve the data of our forebears hard drives, or will it be more easily lost to the ether? I also wonder about all the web content out there. Does anyone now or will they in the future preserve 'snapshots' of the web, including all the individual personal blogs that exist? Or will all that be wiped clean at some time, leaving researchers scratching their heads regarding the 'personalities' of any future research subjects?

    I found the archeoastronomer, descendent's discussion of communication between anciend Egypt and Mayan culture fascinating. I don't think that addresses any of the issues you addressed in your post, Wendy, but it's what I took away from it all. It was an interesting read, so thanks for suggesting it. As an aside, I know the editor of Morris's film, 'The Thin Blue Line', the hair raising true story of a man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and consequently found himself on death row in the Texas penal system. The film actually played a key role in exonerating him. I can heartily recommend it to anyone who entertains sympathy towards the legitimacy of capital punishment. It is a truly remarkable film.


    That second to last sentence is meant to convey that after seeing the film, you will be less likely to support capital punishment.


    wwstaebler, you can post as many links as you desire within your own blog post. When commenting on another user's blog post, there is a hard limit of two links per comment. I believe that when you comment in a thread under your own blog original blog posts, they are not limited to two comments, but I am not positive about that.


    Thanks for reading and commenting, Mh2o -- I always learn something new from your take on anything. And thanks to both you and PCA for additional format instruction. One day I will get it. In the meantime, I appreciate your help. Would be wonderful if Al would provide a "cheat sheet" of instructions for every function. Thank you,M, for the one you gave me about photo insertion.
    Off to work now. Will check in later.


    I can tell you this. Twenty-five years ago my senior project at College was put on a floppy disk that was 4" across and went into an Apple IIe. How many computers do you think are running, right now, that could read those disks, if I could ever find them? How many computers will there be 25 years from now? I think that may be your answer.


    Dammit, Wendy, It is 12 noon and I just finished this compelling story when I was supposed to be cleaning my house!

    Wow, I don't know where to start -- It amazes me that with 43,000 dead at that battle, Bourn could get so much interest in finding out the identity of one person. And also that the mystery was solved.

    Then, the interesting descendants of Amos; so many professionals doing various work. The Mayan-Egyptian connection -- I was particularly glad to read of a reason that 2012 is not correct for the end of the earth.

    But my mine kept coming back to the complete waste that war is; who knows what contributions Amos and his brothers in death might have made? All those suffering orphans at the "asylum" who would have otherwise had a family if not for war.

    I also noted on one photograph; it was titled, "The War for The Union." I have never heard the Civil War called that before, yet this was contemporaneous.

    Thanks for a fascinating read. I am checking out now, my dustbunnies are calling!


    Para #4 - My mind!!!!! kept coming back....

    One last thought. By telling one person's story, it personalizes this battle and all others. Thanks again for bringing the story here.


    What I would like to know is what were the motivations of Amos to enter this war and leave his wife and three children? The clearest description of his ideas seem to be that he refers to the war as a rebellion. No mention of freeing slaves, but rather a reference that suggests he felt it important to preserve the Union. That being said, it is clear otehrs went to war to abolish slavery. I suspect they all had their own reasons and money and adventure might be among those. Clearly, Amos was a restless sort going whaling for three years and travelling to Michigan as well.


    WW, you can put as many links as you want into a post. And there's a little "link" icon when you're doing blog now, which allows you to highlight the test you'd like to link, then click the link icon, and a window comes down so you can paste the link into the window. And it will light up in your post. :) (as many of them as you want!)


    If we don't stop hanging on to the myth that we live in separate cultures, we will never progress. Whether we like it or not, we live in one culture and that culture is the one we create together.

    That is the true meaning of "American exceptionalism", that of all nations, we were unhampered by tradition, by heredity, by religious institutions and able to create something new by ourselves, for ourselves.


    BevD -- I wrote a sincere question to you in my last blog. I wonder why you did not respond, but say this?


    I recall your blog entry but I don't recall your question. Ask again and I'll be happy to respond.


    Did anyone ever figure out who stole the photo of Amos' kids out of his dead hand?*

    * I read most but not quite all of Morris' five parter.


    Why do you consider it stealing for someone to take the one possible identifying piece of information off of a corpse before burying it in a (semi) mass grave? Surely everyone knew that it would give some level of comfort to a family to find out what happened to a loved-one who died.

    As an emergency room nurse, I have removed rings, other jewelry, and all possible identifying stuff when a dead Jane or John Doe was brought in. Although what I removed went to the police, you have to remember that 43,000 people died in those three days -- leaving it with an inn-keeper turned out to be a pretty good way to get the news to the family after all.

    Obviously the person who first took the picture and then gave it to the innkeeper did not benefit personally from it. Although Bourns didn't steal it, he ultimately stole its worth, and refused to return it to Amos' family.


    Wendy, I just want to say that I am sorry more people didn't read these essays. Most of the comments were just about how to properly post!

    They missed out in my opinion, but if it hadn't appeared on my day off, I might have missed it myself, so remember to post these things on Wednesdays (or maybe on weekends, when everyone has more time).


    Thanks for your post and an old picture of three beautiful children whom I belatedly claim become some part of me. I digress into the double helix.

    Visual presence is important to me and helps form the context I’ve carried from my past. Cold Mountain is one of my favorite movies. Many of my relatives seem portrayed in that film, esp. the musicians. And through those people’s lives, I find a road back, not always where I want to go. Even though they remain anonymous to my understanding I still carry forward some of their values in my genes.

    Like John Trudell says: DNA means: “Descendants ‘N Ancestors” - that’s who we are, going in both directions.

    Wars. Native Americans were 100% of the population here, and now 1%. A common history informs our politics and we have to deal with it, somehow. As far as racism and war go, I think we should replace the black/white dichotomy because together, we are now much more of a mix than that. Maybe we’ll figure it out if we bring out the big pictures, like Flowerchild did on Memorial Day.

    I haven’t finished reading the Errol Morris series yet.
    But the questions I have float somewhere between nature and
    culture, as usual. For me, the common
    denominator is image and language...

    The information in DNA is stored as a code made up of four chemical bases: adenine (A), guanine (G), cytosine (C), and thymine (T). Human DNA consists of about 3 billion bases, and more than 99 percent of those bases are the same in all people. The order, or sequence, of these bases determines the information available for building and maintaining an organism, similar to the way in which letters of the alphabet appear in a certain order to form words and sentences. – Genetics Home Reference

    AGCT vs Who, Me?

    Once more: “Human DNA consists of about 3 billion bases, and more than 99 percent of those bases are the same in all people.”

    What in that 1% makes us racist or violent or mean? I don’t know but I guess its religion and power, gender and politics and culture. The upside is the answers must reside there too. Somewhere. Maybe we’ll figure it out before we all turn phosphorescent greenish-blue like dickday’s “Devolution” blog predicks.

    :-)
    P.S. Congrats on the big win over at Quinn's!


    You can't be serious!

    As you point out -- "Although what I removed went to the police . . . ."

    There's no "Although" about it! Amos' photo was "personal effects"; it should have remained with graves registration. Anyone who removed it from the battlefield for anything other than safe keeping and failed, seasonably, to return it to the army stole it.

    Asides:

    1) Do they know which grave is Amos'?

    2) How do you know "Bourns didn't steal it" in the first place? Is there an independent report of the tavern keeper's story? Or did Bourns make up the tavern keeper story to cover up his theft?

    3) Amos likely died near where he was fighting; the regiments (probably, only one) and the companies (several) fighting there would have been known. If the photo hadn't been stolen "graves" could have showed the picture to the men in those companies. Unless Amos was an out-an-out loner (not likely; he was a sergeant), some of those men would have seen it and known who it belonged to.

    Bourns' tale stinks.


    The idea that Amos died with the picture in his hand contemplating his children is likely someone (Bourns?) exercising creative license.

    It sounds so much better than the story of someone (Bourns?) ransacking Amos' dead body.


    Latest Comments