The Impact of Words

    Chris Rock tells a joke about the late rapper Tu-Pac. "People are saying that Tu-Pac  was assassinated. The truth is that n-word just got shot." Laughter follows. If Tu-Pac was replaced with Martin Luther King Jr. or Malcolm X, you might expect horror rather than laughter. In fact, if laughter followed then the standards in the black community have fallen to  dangerous level.

    We do differentiate at some level between black people and n-words. In another joke, Chris Rock notes that n-words screw things up for Black people. Again laughter follows.

    Somewhere along the line, many have accepted that the free use of the n-word by black people came about the bold move by blacks to "take" the n-word way from the racists. Somehow, this declaration of war was never received by the racists. If you think you fought a battle and won when no battle was actually fought, you are deluded.

    I have pointed out before that true power was shown when Michael Jackson had albums taken off the shelves and re-recorded a song that included a Jewish slur. The Jewish powers that be were not going to roll over for the racists. They were not going to let a hint of degradation survive.  Similarly, true power would be shown if when the n-word was used, you turned around and got in the speaker's face and said in a loud, clear voice, "Say that again!".

    There has been no dramatic improvement in the status of blacks in poverty since the n-word was "taken back". Children who have internalized that the non-battle fought over the n-word is the way to engage in combat are ill-equipped to confront people who say that they are "acting white" by trying to gain an education. Instead of fighting back, the children just give in the the pressure. You have given children a message that you can fighting a battle means giving in and giving up. Another battle, another victory.

    Then we come to the Cookie Monster word, Oreo. Black on the outside and white on the inside. If the man had a plan to get black people to degrade themselves, they could not have picked a better crop of Stepin Fetchits than the current crop of rappers. They will rap about killing n-words and call black females canines to a hip-hop beat. These rappers are the true Oreos serving the same purpose as black slave catchers in days of old. They hate blacks just as much as the racists. The rapper goal is to live large like the Wall Street bankers. If the rappers could count money, they would be foreclosing on very black family in sight. They get paid for passing out the degradation. They are despicable.

    When Florida GOP Representative Allen West did his rap version of degrading Wasserman-Shultz in an e-mail titled,

    "Unprofessional and Inappropriate Sophomoric Behavior from Wasserman Schultz."

    The e-mail said: "Look, Debbie, I understand that after I departed the House floor you directed your floor speech comments directly towards me. Let me make myself perfectly clear, you want a personal fight, I am happy to oblige. You are the most vile, unprofessional and despicable member of the US House of Representatives. If you have something to say to me, stop being a coward and say it to my face, otherwise, shut the heck up."

    West was condemned unlike the acceptance given to those Oreo rappers who do the racists bidding. West was just doing a variation on the hardcore hip-hop beat so why was there a difference in response? Are black females less valued?

    If words don't mean anything, then we waste our time on books and advertising dollars would not lead children to tell parents about the latest cereal or toy.

     

     

    Comments

    Although I agree with your message, I'm fairly certain that if a member of the Congressional Black Caucus publicly addressed another member with the n-word, even if in a friendly manner, all hell would break loose.


    That is exactly what is so crazy about this crap. White folks get entertained by rappers who, degrade black culture. In the days of Black Pride, you would have had to defend yourself if you said something negative about Black women. There was pride in the fact that black men and women were headed to colleges , universities, graduate schools and the professions like medicine in art. Now education is ridiculed.

    I've got people telling me the boldness and bravery of hardcore rappers. I mentioned on a post of Wattree's that I recently watched (as long as I could) a reunion episode of a current show called "Basketball Wives. The women on that show curse like sailors and have some of the lowest standards that you will find on television (except for the reporters on CNBC and Fox). This is the new Black.

    Herman Cain wrote a book called "They think You're Stupid". (OT: Okay I read it because I wanted to see if Cain had any thoughts that differed from the standard "government is evil, let the poor survive on charity" garbage that seems to be the only message found in books by Conservatives. It didn't). Cain should have saved the title to describe the situation that exists when people champion the use of the n-word and  female degradation while during this  era of "progress in making powerful statements", black children are dropping out of school at an alarming rate and the black middle class is disappearing at a logarithmic rate. We sure made a lot of progress "taking" the n-word back.

    The world has gone bonkers. The rappers are considered bold poets and musicians when the truth is that if music tracks from the previous generation were not available, a large segment of the rap industry would collapse.


    I think it's interesting to contrast the n-word with "queer" with respect to the concept of
    "taking it back". Here are some differences I see:

    1. Almost all homosexuals agree with the "taking back" of the word queer. You do not see that kind of unity with the n-word, understandably so in my opinion, but one could make a comparison to limited warfare and the drawbacks inherent therein.
    2. With respect to homosexuals, all non-clinical words were slurs. With the n-word, you have the still respectable black and African American (although perhaps the latter corresponds to the clinicality of homosexual), the semi-respectable negro, and the tread-carefully colored.
    3. The use of the word queer in its "taking back" form is not limited by the sexuality of the user but the manner in which it is used.
    4. The use of the word queer in its "taking back" form does not differ (as far as I can tell) from the use of the word homosexual. As you mention in your main piece, that's not always true for the n-word, although arguably there are cases where it is.

    There's a bigger basic difference. Homosexuals took both "queer" and "gay" back by giving them positive connotations within their own culture, so that they are no longer slurs.

    On the other hand, the n-word is used a lot by blacks as either a slur or a joking or teasing slur. I personally saw three examples late last night going home from Times Square to the Bronx. I saw 2 young shirtless black guys running through Times Square angrily yelling it at each other.  Then on the way home just so happens the MTA is working on the #1 train this weekend so I had to take a lengthy sojourn--transfer to A train at 168th street, long wait at station, then a shuttle bus from 207th Street. During that I saw 2 more instances of groups of young black kids using the n-word--the first as a derogatory about someone not there, the second was teasing of someone in the group when he said something the group considered dumb.

    When it's not used as a positive, it's not really taking it back, instead it's giving approval for insults to continue. Though weakened, most examples I see, the n word is still used in the context of an insult.

    I don't know much about rap or hip hop, have never been a fan. The little I know, I get the impression that it's sometimes used therein as a positive, as in describing a prime male example of "not going to take anymore I'm loud and proud" black power.  But on the streets of New York I don't see any trickle down effect of that, I see it used virtually always as a real slur or a ribbing-style putdown as it is used in some rap or in comedy like that of Chris Rock.

    And it's interesting that you don't often see females use it (unless they are going for  a kind of tough girl image.) Seems to be used mostly to play guy-pack ranking and in-group games.


    During my exile on main steet (north Main Street in East Granby, Ct., to be exact) surrounded by the E. Granby chapter of the KKK, I had more than one occasion to bristle at the casual use by white boys of this offensive word, and not used in anything but an offensive manner.

    When challenged, it was not uncommon for the user to reply with feigned innocence that no harm was meant, I have lots of black friends (never within earshot at the moment, needless to say) etc.

    I used to tell them that the only permissible use by a white person was, after a profound favor had been done them, to say "I am your N....r"

    How do you deconstruct this usage?  Does it not rehabilitate the word?


    I think your version would work and be a healthy usage but that it would take at least a couple of generations. As then it would be making it a historic reference (i.e., like we can use peon or serf because they are no longer relevant in current culture;) in many black families, the hurt is still too close, generation-wise for that to happen.

    Your point is interesting because you are venturing into Springtime for Hitler playing in Israel territory (or, the old fav, can a Jew appreciate Wagner painlessly?)


    This is an important distinction between the dynamics between "queer" and "nigger."  Another significant distinction was the taking back of "queer" had to do with a issue of acknowledgement.   Unlike the black community, the homosexual community had lived in the shadows and closets.  Their existence was denied by the society in which they existed.  Taking back terms like queer was done in part as a way to say "yes, I am queer and I exist."


    1967

    R-E-S-P-E-C-T

    Aretha sang it like she meant it.

    Where is the respect now?


     

    I'm pretty much in agreement with what you wrote, although I think that sometimes context does have to be considered.  Is Richard Pryor an Oreo for using the 'n-word'?  Was Mark Twain's usage offensive? Lenny Bruce? Dick Gregory? These men used the word 'constructively', in my opinion, i.e., as a way to show us our own hypocrisy and force us to look at the true meaning of the word.  But then there are the rappers and comedians that use it just to get a cheap, shock value type laugh or to appear to be 'cutting edge'.  It's similar to the way some young comedians use the f-word.  They just throw it in because it helps them get a laugh when their material is weak, not because they're making any kind of point about society and our sexual morals.  

    So I don't think there's a blanket generalization to be made about the use of the n-word. Any official rule banning its usage would strip all responsibility from the listener and put the onus entirely on the speaker.  In any dialogue, both speaker and listener should be equally responsible for the tone and context, in my opinion.  Like all words that have a certain charge, they can be used to make a  point and they can be used simply for their shock value. The people listening need to be given the responsibility of deciding into which context they need to place a specific usage.  If the word offends them, they need to step up and say so, even when it is 'uncool' to say it to a rapper or a comedian.  I think any decision that the word is not to be said, makes the listeners into victims and not full partners in the dialogue.

    To me, the approach to 'take back' the meaning of the word was the right way to go, even though as a result, you have some unwanted usage.  I think people today are much more aware of the negative connotation of the word, and that it isn't a word to be thrown around lightly, but, as in all things, there are always idiots willing to exploit freedom of speech and their right to use the word recklessly.

     


    Uh, first, it's 2011, does anyone really care?

    Second, a rapper is an entertainer. A politician is an elected official. Different standards.

    Third, what does being "white" mean, in terms of Oreo. Does it mean acting like an Irishman, Russian emigré, German, or Londoner, a Serb, a Milano, a Swede, a Hungarian? Does it mean a suburbanite, a metrosexual or a CHUD? Does it mean Bruce Willis, Dennis Kucinich, Rick Perry, MacKaye, Steve Jobs, Gordon Norquist, Bradley Manning, Charles Graner, Jimmy Carter, Eminem, Jean-Paul Gaultier, George Tiller? Or could it mean God forbid a female, like Linda Perry, Martha Stewart, Carly Fiorina, Jane Hamsher, Lise Meitner, Gretchen Bleiler, Lady Gaga, Beth Phoenix, Ruth Bader Ginsburg....?

    Perhaps the black community better get relevant quick if this is all it has to discuss.


    Maybe the problem is that people don't care.  One would have hoped that by 2011 there would have a general collective understanding in the nation about language and the power contained within.

    Because whether we're talking about the "nigger," "oreo," "fag," "liberal," "woman," or whatever, what we are talking about is the manner in which power is manifested in our society.  Power (and powerlessness) which manifests in the external world and within the internal world of individuals.

    The notion of identity as it has been tied to politics (i.e. identity politics) has been generally dismissed as, at best, an annoying facet of the political environment, which politicians have to maneuver. Yet who we understand ourselves to be, and who we understand those around us to be, is at the core of all the ideologies.

    We are immersed in our culture, and regardless of how independent of a thinker we like to believe ourselves, the power of the language through reiteration to make real that which it names makes itself felt within each of us.  

    There is no outside the text as one soul put it.  If our experience is nothing but text in the end, it makes a difference what the exact text is.


    Huh? I can't make out what this says at all.

    There's a huge movement to disenfranchise Democratic voters, a large portion the black community. I don't see where it matters whether they call them "nigger" or "Mr. Fipps" or "Your Highness", blacks are getting screwed.

    Typically right-wing hucksters have adopted all the genteel niceities of language to get away with this, layering it all in a cynically transparent veneer of "voter fraud" that never existed except on their own side (see Florida, electronic voting machines, Wisconsin - suddenly appearing bags of votes).

    And no, "identity" has not been dismissed, except by some naïve folks who thought there was no identity politics in blacks voting for Obama. But really, the use of the word "nigger" has to be one of the most irrelevant trifles of 2011 compared to the meltdown going on. 

    Plus there are other cultures where the majority youth use terms equivalent to "nigger" when razzing each other, and somehow the culture doesn't fall on its face.

    Really, it's a non-issue. Words often have exactly the power we give to them. Most of this sounds ridiculous anyway, like people out of bad 60's movies. Kids especially see this - they've moved on, even if the old farts haven't.

    Anyway, energy's better spent on teaching black kids how to hack code for fun and profit, or get them accounting/stock trader jobs so they can be part of the grand heist next time. You'd think the sole reason for expanding the black middle class was to listen to more crap music and have bigger screens to watch sports? Should the trials and tribulations of Lindsay Lohan and Tim Tebow drive the economic future of the white community?

    Note, whites laughed at "hayseeds" and "rednecks" and "white trash" and whatever for ages. Did that destroy the white community, hold back their possibilities, lead the next generation into despair? There are movies like "Dumb and Dumber", are cartoons like "Goofus and Gallant" - the message is basically, "don't be an idiot". Certainly not a life-destroying message.


    PS - I don't get how rappers are doing "white racists' bidding". Aren't they free, black and 21? Aren't they responsible for their own actions, not just puppets on the string of some white person?

    Really, these conversations feel like Richard Roundtree will walk in the door at any moment.


    It isn't my point that the rappers are doing the white racists bidding, but here is how it how it works -- the rappers affirm the capitalist lifestyle through the reiteration of capitalist motif/tropes as the preferred lifestyle.  The whites in this country control the capitalist system and thereby are able to sustain the system because the collective buy-in (pun intended?).  I could go on about how those in decision-making position make decision regarding personnel and otherwise based on how and what they feel comfortable with.  You do the math.


    No, sorry, it wasn't your point - it was the original poster's point:

    West was condemned unlike the acceptance given to those Oreo rappers who do the racists bidding. 

    However, if you're going to toss out little gems like:

    The whites in this country control the capitalist system and thereby are able to sustain the system because the collective buy-in

    at least tell me where the convention is so I can jump on the sustainability bandwagon.

    Really, "The Whites". Did you know there are a few Chinese who have money now? Did you know that Carlos Slim, a Lebanese-Mexican, is worth like $74 billion?

    It's 2011 - your anti-whitey schtick feels about as dated as all this "n-word" hang-up.

    Did you know that Wall Street stole trillions the last 2 years? Did you know it has less to do with race and more about just being able to get away with it? Did you know whites lost more money in this grand theft than blacks? But at the end of the day it sucks for everyone, whatever ethnic group.


    I don't know where to begin with this tripe.  Let's start with the last paragraph.  As I mentioned, this is about power.  So of course any attacks on the lower tier of the racial group in power is not going to effect the the overall structure of power in this country.  Just as Timothy McVeigh did not become symbolic to American in general of what white Americans were all about in comparison to the 9-11 attackers became symbolic of what those who are Arabic and Muslim, the characters of Dumb and Dumber did not reflect white American males.  Instead they represented the exception to the rule.  Hence the hilarity. HAHAHAHAHA. 

    You want to believe you exist outside of words.  That they are something we pull into ourselves and consciously give some level of power to.   And the kids you have such faith in are so wise and insightful, there has to PSA developed to teach them that saying "that's so gay" might just make someone who is gay not feel so great.  Yeah, they're so light years above their elders. 

    Which is to say you really don't understand the dynamics of language and its power in creating the reality it names.  I'm afraid you're one the concrete thinkers, who believe they have full access to what is, and that the words merely state what is.  In which case, we can't really have any kind of discussion, living in two different worlds as it is.


    You say it's all about power so it must be all about power?

    Are gays so uptight about "that's so gay" that they don't use the phrase more than straights?

    Most whites wouldn't say nigger in front of a black, unless they have a pack of whites to back them up. That's power. It's already worked. 

    It's funny for those on the left, whether self-described liberals or progressives, to be so afraid of words they need to regulate them and run PSA's over them.

    Me, I was more concerned about actions, like disenfranchising blacks at the polls, not making some anachronistic racial slur that would make the kids cringe in embarrassment.


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