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For her CNN "Out Front" debut on Monday, Erin Burnett went to the Occupy Wall Street protesters to see for her corporate-shilling self what the heck all the fuss was about. She couldn't find a single person who knew why they were protesting. Imagine that.
"I saw dancing, bongo drums, even a clown.... I asked several protesters what it was that they wanted. Now, they did not know.... They did know what they don't want."
Occupy Wall Street is [a] leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.
By Ismail Kahn, New York Times, May 23/24, 2012
PESHAWAR, Pakistan — A Pakistani doctor who helped the Central Intelligence Agency pin down Osama bin Laden's location under cover of a vaccination drive was convicted on Wednesday of treason and sentenced to 33 years in prison, a senior official in Pakistan said.
A tribal court here in northwestern Pakistan found the doctor, Shakil Afridi, guilty of acting against the state, said Mutahir Zeb Khan, the administrator for the Khyber tribal region [....]
By Sergei L. Loiko, Los Angeles Times, May 23, 2012
MOSCOW — Stiff new penalties aimed at opposition protesters were given preliminary approval Tuesday by Russian lawmakers loyal to President Vladimir Putin, the target of mass rallies and demonstrations before his March election victory.
The bill, which opposition parliament members termed draconian and protested by threatening to file out of a legislative session, calls for fines of up to $50,000 and up to 200 hours of community service for organizers of rallies and demonstrations that grow violent or exceed the approved number of participants.
The sanctions were approved on first reading by parliament's lower house, which is controlled by Putin's United Russia party. They mark a return by the Kremlin to a tough stance against critics after concessions during the recent election campaign [...]
Also see:
Russians back Putin, strong leadership
Washington Post, May 22, 2012
A Pew survey of 1,000 Russians found that President Vladimir Putin is well-liked by more than 70 percent of citizens, especially older adults.
Associated Press, May 21, 2012
HAVANA — It was all sunshine, smiles and celebratory speeches as officials marked the arrival of an undersea fiber-optic cable they promised would end Cuba's Internet isolation and boost web capacity 3,000-fold. Even a retired Fidel Castro had hailed the dawn of a new cyber-age on the island.
More than a year after the February 2011 ceremony on Siboney Beach in eastern Cuba, and 10 months after the system was supposed to have gone online, the government never mentions the cable anymore, and Internet here remains the slowest in the hemisphere. People talk quietly about embezzlement torpedoing the project and the arrest of more than a half-dozen senior telecom officials.
Perhaps most maddening, nobody has explained what happened to the much-ballyhooed $70 million project....
By Tamasin Ford in Monrovia, Guardian.co.uk, May 22, 2012
Husbands, not strangers or men with guns, are now the biggest threat to women in post-conflict west Africa, according to a report by the International Rescue Committee (IRC) released on Tuesday.
The IRC report, Let Me Not Die Before My Time: Domestic Violence in West Africa, based on data collected over 10 years by the IRC in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Ivory Coast, said domestic violence is the "most urgent, pervasive and significant protection issue for women in west Africa" [.....]
By Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press, May 22, 2012
WASHINGTON -- Uncle Sam may not want you after all.
In sharp contrast to the peak years of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the Army last year took in no recruits with misconduct convictions or drug or alcohol issues, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press. And soldiers already serving on active duty now must meet tougher standards to stay on for further tours in uniform.
The Army is also spending hundreds of thousands of dollars less in bonuses to attract recruits or entice soldiers to remain.
It's all part of an effort to slash the size of the active duty Army from about 570,000 at the height of the Iraq war to 490,000 by 2017. The cutbacks began last year, and as of the end of March, the Army was down to less than 558,000 troops.
For a time during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army lowered its recruiting standards [....]
I fully expect Erin will coming out with her autobiography by early next year.
Erin; “Nothing to see here folks move along”
Of course,
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Satan is full of wisdom and exceedingly beautiful
So sayeth The Lord!
http://www.pacinst.com/efh/chapter2/satan.html
When she's done at CNN, she'll move to Fox news. (Born again) She'll keep transforming herself into an angel of light, in order to mislead many.
Thanks, Ramona.
I'm tempted to mail her a copy of The Hellhound of Wall Street (hoping Elizabeth Warren will be the modern-day Ferdinand Pecora equivalent) but it might require too much of a leap of historical imagination for the poor soul.
Maybe a copy of this one: All the Devils are Here, by Bethany McLean and Joseph Nocera, would be contemporary enough:
http://www.amazon.com/All-Devils-Are-Here-Financial/dp/159184438X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1317833743&sr=1-1
For those not deliberately uncurious about what all the fuss is about there must be at least a shelf full of other useful reads on this subject at their local Barnes and Noble.
This seems to be the journalistic equivalent of a technique media uses in African-American communities. Whenever a sensational crime occurs, the reporter will pick out the stereotypical poor black person with poor diction to get their point of view. The black people who don't fit the reporter's stereotype are not interviewed. Reporters see what they want to see.
When the media descended on Jena, LA , many reporters admitted that they did not know what the protest was about and therefore couldn't tell the audience about past judicial grievances that sparked the protest. The reaction of the media to the Million Man March was even more hilarious. Not until busloads of black men were boarding buses and heading to DC did the media realize that a march was about to occur. The event had been broadcast all over black media for months in advance.
The mainstream media is myopic.
I am joining Occupy Denver today. It is really true that young people are less likely to have paid attention to politics and exactly what has happened and what can be done to make things better. I was talking to a young friend who was Occupying Boulder with another young friend of mine and they just know things are totally screwed up and they are making it clear that they are fed up and want things to change.
Others of us getting involved can really help. Nobel prize winning economists did a teach-in with Occupy Wall Street this weekend to help them understand more what has happened and that basically they are right to be protesting at Wall Street. As I am a political activist and spend time learning about what is going on I can offer some help to the young people in my life who want to be a part of this.
I am also going to a logistical meeting at Occupy Denver to tell them that I want to take a survey, in writing, for what they are protesting for. I have seen division arise as people present ideas that I don't agree with and I would like to help the group focus on the issues/concerns that we have in common. I will need some help to put the information together but I created a form and a friend is printing a lot of copies for me. This group has not grown so large at this point so this might work/help.
Very interesting, synchronicity. I hope you will share whatever you feel you can at dag on this as you proceed. I'd sure be interested in hearing about your experiences in Denver and I think it's likely that there are others here who would be as well.
Good going, Synch. This is how any great movement starts, and if I were closer to one of the protest sites, I would be there. I think the teach-in is a great idea, too. The issues might be complicated but for most people protesting, the pain of their everyday lives is real.
follow the money
The Koch brothers are leading the right, maybe one of the Marx brothers, will emerge to lead the left?
I wonder how the press will react, if a leader named Karl emerges?
Thanks, Ramona. I laughed like hell when I read the above complaint made by this sage journalist. I'm guessing she doesn't have an editor. I mean, just imagine a world where protestors are focused upon what it is they don't want!
One of the critical factors that limited the impact--so far, anyway--of the late '90s Battle for Seattle was that there wasn't an alternative being offered to the type of economic globalization the protesters were demonstrating against. Individuals and particular organizations who participated in that in some cases were doing that. That was by far the most frequently offered criticism that I heard of that initiative at the time--and since.
I think it's also true that leadership has to emerge organically, if it is to emerge at all, from these sorts of potential, maybe protean, social movements. And it matters a whole lot for the effectiveness and fate of the effort which individual or individuals emerges from the pack of contenders for such roles.
If Elizabeth Warren weren't running for the Senate she could probably be a really effective spokesperson for what is emerging on Wall Street. She seems to have the right temperament, in-depth knowledge of the issues such as to be able to hold her own with anyone on the issues, and media skill for that role.
If she is elected, her efforts--especially if the Senate stays Democratic and can therefore initiate investigations and hold oversight hearings on subjects of the Democrats' choosing---could help define the kind of policy agenda that is needed to clean up Wall Street, make it more stable, functional, and something that once again serves the real economy instead of primarily itself.
And that in turn could help the Wall Street Occupiers focus their efforts so as to be not simply against something but for something as well. The oldest advocacy rule in the book is still: you can't beat something with nothing. Advocacy efforts that have a positive agenda or program or demands are almost always better positioned to get results than ones that don't have one that commands substantial support from people invested in the movement.
What's up with the broadside, SJ? I'd thought our sympathies are largely similar.
I'm scratching my head wondering when you think I've advocated surrender to the Republicans on their terms. I recall making a similar comment as yours on this subject during or around the debt hostage fiasco. I do recall making a suggestion, which I'd thought hardly oh-so-important and much closer to tilting at a windmill, that if it takes bumping the definition of "rich" in the American Jobs Act from $250,000 to $500,000 a year to get enough Senate votes to save 300,000 to 400,000 public education jobs, and make up the revenue among those higher up the scale, I thought that would be well worthwhile. Do you disagree?
I wasn't disparaging the Seattle or any of the other protesters, or wasn't meaning to. I thought I was making a basically descriptive observation about the former.
SJ, thank you for your gracious remarks.
Effective social movements, later if not sooner, need allies on the inside to get things done. Whether its introducing constitutional amendments in Congress to rewrite key rules as on corporate personhood or campaign financing, or holding hearings (not to be under-estimated as a potentially impactful thing to do--consider the impact of the Army/McCarthy hearings), or passing strong legislation, or lobbying successfully for strong and needed (and legal) executive action.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: organizing on the outside and working the inside does not represent an either/or choice. Rather, it is a both/and imperative for those effective change efforts which can only, or best, be addressed through our political system. Disfunctional as it is, elected officials who sense the winds shifting rapidly sometimes do respond.
For once progressives are on offense, reflected in both OWS and the push for the jobs bill, including, yes, Obama getting up off the mat at long last. I say hooray for that. Can progressives walk and chew gum at the same time? I want to rock our opponents back on their heels and hold their lousy, pinched, total loser of a social vision up to the light of day for the load of undiluted crap that it is, for most of the electorate to see. If we can do that on more than one front I'm all for it.
One can take some action on behalf of the American Jobs Act without any commitment to vote for Obama or even vote at all, for that matter. If it helps to think of it as not being about Obama or next year's elections or inside baseball or any of that other incredibly offputting stuff, great. 300,000 or 400,000 public education employees, and the kids who stand to lose out if they lose their jobs, would sure appreciate it if folks fed up with the status quo will help our economy and our country's present and future by rising up on their behalf, too.
In any event of this magnitude, it's easy enough to highlight the sublime or the ridiculous, depending on what you choose to focus on. Remember how we all laughed at the misspelled Tea Party signs?
But I think Burnett's core critique is on target. This movement lacks focus, it lacks an agenda, and it lacks leadership. You don't have to go looking for these elements. They're overwhelming to both the casual visitor and the serious participant. Indeed, the organizers revel in the chaos under more appealing labels like "consensus" and "democracy."
They tout the Arab uprisings as a model seemingly without awareness that those uprisings eschewed leadership not out of idealism but out of necessity--because dissident leaders faced imprisonment and execution. Once the protestors' safety was more secure, Arab leaders emerged to channel the primal eruptions in the square.
The same thing will have to happen here if this movement is to get off the ground.
I'm working on a piece about my own experience at the demonstration which aims to paint a richer picture of the atmosphere for those who haven't been able to see it themselves. Maybe it will go up on the website of my "colleague" Erin Burnett. ;)
I think the movement has gotten off the ground. It's sort of a Wright Brothers flight so far, but it is off the ground.
In the sphere of social progress, the ground is a relative term. ;) I would like to see this movement blossom into a sustained electoral force, not for months but for years.
The Tea Party movement also started out very amorphously, and there's plenty of time for Occupy Wall Street to evolve into at least as potent a movement. What I worry about is the disdain for organization and leadership. That attitude will have to change for this to endure.
Leaders haven't a very strong track record lately.
Syllogistic fallacy: Our current leaders are bad. Ergo, all leaders are bad.
It will take a while for this movement to spin off any logically coherent agendas, or to to give rise to groups that pursue any of these agendas in a strategically coherent way. For now, it just seems like a lot of people accustomed to a sense of powerlessness proving to themselves and others that they actually possess some power.
They are no doubt beginning to frighten some authorities.
I'm nervous about that term, "leaderless movement", too. Clearly, there are leaders and an organization or it would never have gotten off the ground. And, as you say, the money is coming in from somewhere.
It could be that they want the focus to be on the demonstrations and not on any one personality. I'm predicting that in another week or so a clear leader will emerge, but I hope it's not your standard power struggle for a spot at the top.
Who will it be? Someone as unlikely as Lech Walesa? Mother Jones? Gandhi? Strange things happen in popular uprisings. This could get interesting real fast..
I'm sure you won't expend more than two sentences comparing this to the Arab Spring and the Tea Party.
But in case you don't remember you had some succinct comments back a while ago when we were blogging about Friedman's superficial understanding of social media, etc. in relation to the Arab Spring.
I look forward to your essays on this movement--it is unique, limitless, and the "99%" symbol is the most effective means of encapsulating the upside down nature of wealth distribution in this country that I have yet seen.
Go, Man. This is one of those moments.
You're not going to like the piece, I think. It's critical and snarky, maybe a little like Burnett's but funnier.
I'm actually pretty optimistic about this stuff but in the long term but not the short term. It's going to be a long haul.
I do think that the grassroots protests are of a piece in the questioning of traditional authority, but there are some significant differences. The Arabs were dealing with far greater repression than few of us can conceptualize, and the systems they battled were far more brittle. There won't be any sudden coups here, just the dull slog of electoral politics.
The Tea Parties are much more analogous, but as I've been belaboring since I wrote my book, they didn't appear in a vacuum. There was so much financial, organizational, and media support in place to turn the spontaneous movement into an electoral machine. From the deep pockets of the Club for Growth to the millions of Glenn Beck listeners, it was a movement waiting to happen. Liberals don't have anyone of Beck's stature. They could perhaps get the money from folks like Soros, but there aren't many large far-left fundraising organizations in action right now.
Side note: It was interesting to learn from the Occupy Wall Street tech planners that money doesn't seem to be a big constraint. It's not unlimited, but there is certainly a budget.
I can't believe that I wrote "of Beck's stature" without irony. Time to stop blogging, clearly.
Genghis and Beck, sittin' a tree. . .
That's disgusting on so many levels
I know, I botched the diddly--it should've been "Genghis and Beck, sittin' in a tree. . ."
It's okay. It needed repeating. :>)
Oh, it'll be easy to pick apart the Occupiers -- every movement gets off to a rocky start and draws the crazies and the grandstanders -- but keep the protest rallies going long enough and leaders will emerge, a clear objective gets hammered out and presented, and the movement becomes cohesive.
The appeal of this movement for me is that it is at long last progressive/liberal. What makes me crazy is that we couldn't get anything like this going during the Bush administration, when it was as sorely needed, if not more so.
Even with the media reporting that the protests are leaderless and chaotic, even with the video bites showing the worst and most embarrassing of the protesters, even with everybody with a public voice insisting that nobody knows what they're doing, this thing continues to grow.
It is no Arab spring for the reasons you suggest, but I don't think the Occupied organizers meant it in that way. I think they took their cues from the successes of those protests and recognized that in the beginning it's the numbers and not necessarily the thought that counts. Just get those bodies out there for now and try to scare the crap out of the Fat Cats.
With success comes more success. It took two weeks for the media to finally give it some attention but big names and now the unions are getting involved and suddenly it's legit. Now it starts.
It'll be interesting to read your take on it, Genghis. I would just say give it a little time. It's still in its infant stages. Who knows what it'll grow into.
Why would negative media coverage slow the movement? The media is in bed with Wall Street, no? I didn't think that the Occupiers paid 'em much attention. Heck, negative media coverage didn't seem to slow down the Tea Parties, and they got a much bigger and meaner dose of it than the Occupiers. Of course, that was the liberal media, not the corporate media. Wouldn't want to get those two confused.
In any case, I don't think that the "Fat Cats" are overly anxious about a bunch of bodies holding muddled assemblies downtown. They probably don't take them very seriously, and I can't say that I blame them. If the muddled assemblies become a unified voting bloc, then they might get a little nervous, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Sorry if this sounds cynical but...well...I'm a cynic.
Mobilize this throng to show up at future Republican and
Democraticdebates.Primary Obama, It's our party and were taking it back, the progressives shouldn't have been disrespected.
Find Nader the corporate fighter to speak, get Moore, Chomsky, Van Jones.
This movement is going to hit critical mass, anybody Republican or Democrat that speaks to protect the status quo, is tainted.
Obama the pitchfork intervener, banker class protector, the pressure relief valve, has failed.
"Were mad as hell and we aren't going to take it anymore"
Do as the Tea party did when the Healthcare debate was happening.
Genghis; the Tea party is pissed and so are we, is there any common ground?
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From Tahrir Square to Wall Street
What can "Occupy Wall Street" learn from the activists who took down Hosni Mubarak? by Joshua A. Keating, | October 5, 2011
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Thanks, AA. Really interesting reading. These movements are so fluid it's hard to make any rules that will actually stick, but the parallels are intriguing.
The "I am a thug" tees remind me of "Black is Beautiful" and Dick Gregory's "Nigger". They took the slurs and made them their own, and effectively transferred the power of the words.
There are many movements the Occupiers could take lessons from. I can only hope they're taking the time to learn from them.
Ramona,
Excellent blog, thanks. I have seen some critical pieces in the print media over the past week or two, but I never got the impression that it was universally hostile. It is true that the protests have been relatively leaderless and without a firm manifesto, by design or otherwise, and I think skepticism flowing from that is understandable and fair--even if such analysis might be missing the arguments for a leaderless movement, etc.. On the other hand, I see at least two positive accounts on the protests in today's Times, one about the diversity of the participants, and the other about increased union involvement alongside the protesters, which I link to below.
Nice work.
Bruce
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/nyregion/major-unions-join-occupy-wall...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/nyregion/wall-st-protest-lures-many-ne...
I'm happy to see the unions involved. They may be weakened but their presence is needed in places where the working class is trying to make change. They can't and won't take it over, but they can add numbers and heft and most of all, funding.
I found this interesting. The good thing about it taking place in NYC is that there are plenty of people already there. A good many of them are just curious, I'm sure, but they are adding to the numbers:
Canadian agitators? Why does that seem familiar?
I don't know. Why? "Canadian Bacon"?
I was thinking more of acanuck and Q.
Time to rename protest...
"WE THE PEOPLE"
SolarManJD