MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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The United States, especially under the Trump administration, has no moral leverage to dictate to Nigerian police or soldiers that lives are important. The moral case can only be made after we clean up the mess in our own house. The United States has to tackle police reform before we can address the issue in other nations.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 8:32am
Seriously? We have to become Sweet Polly Purebread before we tackle female genital mutilation and Congolese rapegangs and Hutus slaughtering Tutsis and white-enforced apartheid around the Cape and near slavery in African mines and religious-based discrimination? Thugs and dictators all over Africa would have loved having you determine US foreign policy & priorities over the post-war period.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 11:35am
Yes
The guy in the White House is OK with grabbing women's private parts and says African countries are shitholes.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 12:25pm
I agree! It was outrageous the way we interfered with Hitler's genocide of the Jewish people when the US did almost the same thing with the American Indians. We should have stayed out of WWII until we had dealt with our own genocide. "The moral case can only be made after we clean up the mess in our own house. The United States has no moral leverage to dictate to
NigerianGerman police or soldiers that (Jewish) lives are important." Especially when America was anti-semitic too.by ocean-kat on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 1:14pm
OK, you should apply to be the Minister of Woke History for Warlord Raz of Chaz. Chris Titus could be your professor teaching true history facts such as George Washington hated Mussolini and all those Fascists.
Those Noble Savages were very adept at genosiding settlers until Sam Colt invented his revolver and by that time there weren't enough Indians left for us to hae a good old bastioned genocide. .
by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 2:19pm
The United States did stay out until Pearl Harbor.
The US sent the MS St Louis back to Europe for slaughter.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 3:51pm
1. Germany declared war on the United States before the US declared war on Germany. link
2. There was never certainty by Allied powers that genocide of the Jews was being executed by the Nazis. Even in Europe, Jews from Holland, France and Hungary were unawares of what awaited them as they boarded trains well into 1943. The Germans went to great lenths to conceal their crimes. Therefore, ending the genocide was not a basis for supporting Britain and Russia with Lend-Lease, or for entering the conflict.
3. The shock of what the Germans had done is reflected in this communication, one month before German surrender, Ike to General Marshall on April 15, 1945. DDE Library, pdf
by NCD on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 4:35pm
Are you arguing with OK? He's being facetious.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 5:04pm
I thought it was cute the way he took my sarcastic mockery seriously.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 5:39pm
I don't take anything you say anymore very seriously. I put some facts out, amongst the arguing, ribald chatter and "sarcastic mockery", for anyone interested.
by NCD on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 9:10pm
Documents discovered at the UN in 2017 show that the Allied Powers knew about the Holocaust in December 1942 and knew that 2 million Jews had already been murdered.
by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 6:29pm
You're the only one bringing the U.S. into it. Dr. Adekoya lives in the UK, he is of Polish-Nigerian heritage and this is an op-ed column published in Nigerian Business Day.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 2:25pm
I've followed Dr. Adekoya on Twitter for like a year after seeing an essay by him @ The Guardian that I liked. He writes for an international audience. Teaches Political Science @sheffielduni| Author of Biracial Britain: A Different Way of Looking at Race. Release: 2021@littlebrown https://www.theguardian.com/profile/remi-adekoya but lately has gotten heavily into Nigerian history and the sources of its problems.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 3:48pm
I know of him. The link takes us to an article where he most definitely brings the United States into the discussion. He talks about Coates. He discusses George Floyd. He mentions Martin Luther King Jr.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 4:04pm
I'll grant you that he definitely thinks the U.S. is superior to Nigeria. He is talking to Nigeria, though, he's not telling the U.S citizens. what to do. Rather, he admires the mentality of protesting for equal rights rather than just accepting that inequality is the way things are which he clearly thinks most Nigerians do. I admit I do take his opinions about the difference between the societies more seriously than any opinion you might have as he grew up living in both.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 4:18pm
He brought the United States into the discussion Thank you
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 4:45pm
Yes he did, And he thinks your opinion Is totally stupid and sucks. Read the article - he says Nigeria is so much more fucked than the US - hard to believe, isnt it.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 5:08pm
He has spoken out about police brutality in England and Poland.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/12/europe-needs-to-talk-about-race-too/
There are protests against police brutality in African countries as well.
https://www.france24.com/en/20200613-after-the-death-of-george-floyd-africa-mobilises-against-police-violence
Which US agency would have a credible voice on the issue of police brutality?
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 5:51pm
rmrd can't even see a compliment about the U.S. BLM when he sees it.
I actually just posted the article because I am interested in the global reaction, there's the whole colonialist thing influencing the humanities and then there's how the BLM protests are affecting how other countries do about their own problems. Adekoya is especially interesting because, as bi-cultural, he has strongly argued to Nigerians that the western ideals about how civil society should be are superior to others, even though they did not apply them to the conquered when they were colonialists. That the answer to having been colonized is not to imitate the colonization by being brutal to each other, but to steal the ideals He definitely does not see any better ideals anywhere else. I.E., he doesn't think various tribal systems to lead to anything but disaster. (He was therefore probably strongly anti-Brexit, but I am not 100% positive as I didn't read him on that.)
It is widely agreed that Nigeria is a total mess, that's not controversial. Nigerians themselves think so. Lots of emigration anywhere they can go; I noticed looking into Nigeria discussions allover the place, both on Twitter and on Nigerian news sites-- Canada is popular because it's easy for them to get in for some reason.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 5:55pm
Serendipity I just ran across this guy who clearly differs about the western civilization thing
It's a joke, but then it's not. If you look at the top of his thread, he started it by quoting a Daily Beast article about the NYTimes op-ed editorial dust up. He's basically saying the Trump way of doing things, i.e, "ratings" is winning. But it's not populism, it's twitterism?
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 6:13pm
You are all over the map. Which administration official would you have give advice Nigeria? Trump?
Trump is not winning.
Generals have turned their backs to him.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 7:07pm
AGAIN!!!!The initial article is not about U.S. interfering in Nigeria's affairs, nothing about that here! Zero zip. You are introducing it. Adekoya is not American. He is not suggesting the U.S. interfere. He is suggesting to Nigerians that Nigerians need to adopt western democratic ideals.
On this tweet: you CLEARLY have zero understanding of what I am refering to. And that it's ironic.
WHY NOT JUST REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND?! Or at least humbly comment. Instead of trying to start an argument about something that doesn't even apply...
CRIMINY! So absurd, it's no different trying to communicate with you than with "Anonymous", it's that bad. You have a very closed narrow approach to everything. What you don't realize: that's textbook xenophobia.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 7:22pm
I understand. I am making a clear point. There is no one in the Trump administration who can criticize the Nigerian police.on the world stage. I'm talking about addressing police abuse in other nations. No one in the WH can criticize any police force
The leader of Hong Kong can now say the US is a hypocrite for criticizing the actions Hong Kong police took against protesters.
https://www.dw.com/en/hong-kong-leader-carrie-lam-slams-us-double-standards-with-protests/a-53655150
We have no moral voice on the issue whether it be Nigeria or Hong Kong.
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changed know to now
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 9:30pm
The point of the essay as I see it: western societies in general are based on greater respect for all human life than Nigeria is,they expect more along those lines than Nigerians even imagine and protest when they don't feel they are getting it. And that Nigerians need to copy that.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/15/2020 - 3:55pm