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One of my favorite writers is ESPN's Bill Simmons, and one of my favorite movies (on as I type) is The Shawshank Redemption. Simmons said of Shawshank that it would have been a much bigger hit but for the lousy title. As he put it, the only way elements of the story could have been fashioned into a less appealing, more offputting title would be to have called it either The Prison Rape Redemption, or Swimming Through 500 Yards of Shit-Smelling Foulness. And as is so often true, Simmons was mostly right. But not entirely so. The title makes some sense because the movie is great because it is about redemption. A protagonist who is unjustly imprisoned, who somehow redeems his time in an often brutal Maine prison by acts of humanity, and ultimately, his escape. And so I appropriate that lousy title for this badly titled blog about the burning question of Why We Blog. So then? Why blog? Here's what I think.
First off, I started blogging in 2008 to try to say something in support of Barack Obama. I had gone to law school with him. I didn't follow his public career approvingly and with interest simply or primarily because of that fact; after all, I went to law school with Ken Mehlman and Paul Clement too, and that didn't promote a similar interest on my part. Without excavating why I supported Barack Obama's candidacy before it occurred, and rooted for it before it existed, I was strongly committed to it in January 2008. So I started writing pieces. Humor pieces, argument pieces, advocacy pieces. In part, we blog simply because we care. Writing is a teapot that boils and whistles, and it feels good to let it out. That's a simple answer, but a pretty good one. You should do things because you care. In 2008, millions of us had a lot to let out, me among them. I let it out because I cared.
As a second cut, a better reason to blog, one that endures beyond a political campaign, or today's issue frame, is to create something. It's a canvas. And the blog itself has only the limitations, implied or express, that you supply to the activity. Thus it is that I posted a poem. And snark. And really, really detailed predictions before the 2010 midterms (got closer to the total number on the House and Senate than did Nate Silver, though he had more races right). And detailed tasting notes and recommendations of dark chocolates and beers. And the history of a dam. And a post of my photography. And some emotion about college basketball. And confessional writing about a brush with cancer. But the answer -- To Create -- is facile and superficial, because it assumes that creating is an end in and of itself.
So my third cut at Why Blog? is, why create at all? There's a personal level to that. There is a kind of dry exhibitionism in the variety of my writing. When I was a kid, I did a speech event called extemporaneous speaking, about current events. And my teammates stereotyped me as that guy who did analysis, and assumed that I couldn't act, or be funny. So I took up the speech event Original Comedy, where you have to write and perform your own sketch or monologue comedy. I think I did it more because people didn't think I could, and that pissed me off. But I did it to show myself, and anyone noticing, that I had more creative gears than my colleagues would give me credit for. That I could be funny if I wasn't supposed to, or read poetry if I wasn't supposed to. Something like that. For me, the acts of creating and competing are tangled up. For me, creating has always been more than a little defiant. But I don't quite know who or what I'm defying. While I cared about and tallied up TPM recommends, it's definitely not other bloggers. It's not people who disagree with me; while disagreement comes with the territory, I don't court it. I couldn't write for the sake of courting it, and more often avoid writing that will cause it to multiply. When I see bloggers getting into loud fistfights with rivals or detractors, the whole thing strikes me as ridiculous and valueless. So I think I'm defying the idea that I am limited, and that is important for me.
This leads me in turn to the more universal discussion of why to create. There's this long-noted tension between creating and, well, death. We blog for posterity, Des suggested. I sort of agree. Whitman called it his Song of Myself. We're all singing that, after a fashion. Howling the primordial Howl. So I try to write a piece that shows something, I guess, something that leaves a little piece of me in the unstated hope that someone might conclude from it, damn, that guy could write a poem, or take a picture, or predict the composition of the Senate slightly better than Larry Sabato. (I had Murkowski, we agreed on the rest. :) ) There is some of that in writing, to be sure.
This leaves me feeling the question of Why Blog? is not yet answered well, and brings me to my fourth cut -- defying limits or showing off is part of the equation, but not the best reason to create. A better, equally universal reason to write is that we reach someone. Writing is communication. It's not a memorial. It's not an achievement, like tossing a javelin. It's a conversation. I show my pictures not for the thrill of Being a Photographer, but rather to communicate my love of the sites I see, to put someone in my eyes and render what I see for them. Political writing and sports writing are no less aesthetic and communicative. I want to show something I see as intellectually dishonest or importantly inconsistent (concern over cruel mistreatment of one prisoner but not a nation of people in solitary), or move someone to a conviction they don't want to share (e.g., Blue Dogs were responsible for the margin by which the House passed the public option). I want to create and entertain, and in a positive but kind of bristling way, I want to show it, I want to tell it. Want to see how many people read and appreciate it. Who respond thoughtfully and interestingly. That's a rush, and a very good reason to create anything.
But there is a fifth cut, which is, as they say on the game shows, my final answer to Why Blog? Before going there, I need to divert to a negative: no discussion of reasons to blog would be complete without a list of things that are not reasons to blog. There are a million of these. Easy one: I don't blog to make friends, though I like many friends I've made this way. Likewise, I was kind of startled once when someone suggested I had "fans." I still don't agree with that, but I don't think I write to have "fans," though I do write for response from a readership, and I do seek and enjoy feedback from the many people whose opinions I respect. Also, like many in the generally anonymous blogosphere, I don't write for professional reasons. Indeed, lawyer ethical duties, simple judgment and discretion, and professional reasons not to gratuitously make records of my views on various matters all muffle me as a writer, make me more boring and limited than I otherwise would be. Finally, I don't write for fighting in the comment threads. True, you can't have blogging (in any meaningful sense) without readers. But to me the threads are in service of something that starts but does not end with the blog. But rolling out into a thread and punching? Boring. Likewise, I didn't start writing blogs to be a thread cop or a thread moralist; I have strong views about appropriate behavior, but I don't blog primarily to blog about blogging; blog hygiene is an unpleasant necessity, a byproduct of having a blogosphere. So for me the comments are not the why, and the meta even less so.
Without further ado, my fifth and final answer to Why Blog? It's redemption or beauty. In the end, does writing redeem anything? For me, yes. Did my seeing the Lincoln Memorial, and then a homeless man who wouldn't let me give him anything, and then explaining it here, redeem anything? Maybe it did, in the same way it mattered to Andy Dufresne to put books on the shelf of a prison library he invented. The prisoners were still in prison. All he could do was create something. Say something. Does it matter to display my photos? They depict scenes that memorialize people who are gone, or places that are no more. Does art redeem? Does journalism redeem? From a certain point of view. But is redemption even necessary? Depends on who you are. An even better answer than redemption to the question of why to write, or take pictures, or sing a song, is found in a great song of living, the Navajo beauty way ceremonial song. One rendering of it goes like this:
The Navajo Beauty Way Ceremony
In beauty may I walk
All day long may I walk
Through the returning seasons may I walk
Beautifully I will possess again
Beautifully birds
Beautifully joyful birds
On the trail marked with pollen may I walk
With grasshoppers about my feet may I walk
With dew about my feet may I walk
With beauty may I walk
With beauty before me may I walk
With beauty behind me may I walk
With beauty above me may I walk
With beauty all around me may I walk
In old age, wandering on a trail of beauty, lively, may I walk
In old age, wandering on a trail of beauty, living again, may I walk
It is finished in beauty
It is finished in beauty
So why create anything? To witness the beauty, to walk amid all the beauty that is around us all. To do what this song calls us to do. This is redemption of what we are, if redemption we need. And if you're not feeling Calvinist and don't need redemption, then just as Shawshank ends with Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman on the azure sea and white sandy beach of Zawataneo, it is finished in beauty. Beauty that is all around us. That's why.
Perceptive Dagblog readers know the difference between Obama, Romney and Bush:
Obama NYT today: .how President Obama’s thinking about what he once called “a war of necessity” began to radically change less than a year after he took up residency in the White House....The aide told Mr. Obama that he believed military leaders had agreed to the tight schedule to begin withdrawing those troops just 18 months later only because they thought they could persuade an inexperienced president to grant more time if they demanded it. “Well,” Mr. Obama responded that day, “I’m not going to give them more time.”...Mr. Obama concluded in his first year that the Bush-era dream of remaking Afghanistan was a fantasy...
Mitt Romney, Feb. 2012 : LAS VEGAS -- LAS VEGAS -- Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Wednesday night blasted President Obama and his administration for “putting in jeopardy” the nation’s military mission by signaling it hopes to end its combat mission in Afghanistan by the middle of 2013.
Appearing at a campaign rally here shortly after landing in Nevada, Romney said Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta’s statement Wednesday that U.S. forces would transition from a combat mission in Afghanistan next year “makes absolutely no sense.”....
George W. Bush, from May, 2003: BBC - "We do not know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the tide... Free nations will press on to victory,"
Bush Afghanistan strategy : Gen. Douglas E. Lute, who had spent the last two years of the Bush administration trying to manage the many trade-offs necessary as the Iraq war consumed troop and intelligence resources needed in Afghanistan, arrived with a PowerPoint presentation. The first slide that General Lute threw onto the screen caught the eye of Thomas E. Donilon, later President Obama’s national security adviser. “It said we do not have a strategy in Afghanistan that you can articulate or achieve,” Mr. Donilon recalled three years later. “We had been at war for eight years, and no one could explain the strategy.”
Mitt Romney isn’t very far into the vice presidential selection process. But according to a dedicated band of conspiracy theorists, the pick is all but a lock: Sen. Marco Rubio.
That’s the current thinking among a worldwide collection of activists who are obsessed with the secretive Bilderberg Group, an alternating roster of global power players who loom as large — if not larger — in the online fever swamps of the fringe as the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76518.html#ixzz1vN5egowz
Aristotle and Plato didn’t agree on much, but they were united in identifying wonder as the origin of their profession. As Aristotle said, “It is owing to their wonder that men . . . first began to philosophise.” This idea appeals to scientists, who frequently enlist wonder as a goad to inquiry. “I think everyone in every culture has felt a sense of awe and wonder looking at the sky,” wrote Carl Sagan in 1985, locating in this response the stirrings of a Copernican desire to know who and where we are.
Yet that is not the only direction in which wonder may take us. To Thomas Carlyle, wonder sits at the beginning not of science, but of religion. That is the central tension in forging an alliance of wonder with science: will it make us curious, or induce us to prostrate ourselves in pitiful ignorance? We had better get to grips with this question before we too hastily appropriate wonder to sell science. That is surely what is going on when pictures from the Hubble Space Telescope are (unconsciously?) cropped and coloured to recall the sublime iconography of Romantic landscape painting, or the Human Genome Project is wrapped in biblical rhetoric, or the Large Hadron Collider’s proton-smashing is depicted as “replaying the moment of creation”. The point is not that such things are deceitful or improper, but that if we want to take that path, we should first consider the complex evolution of the relation between science and wonder.
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Pretending that science is performed by people who have undergone a Baconian purification of the emotions only deepens the danger that it will seem alien and odd to outsiders, something carried out by people who do not think as they do. Daston believes that we have inherited a “view of intelligence as neatly detached from emotional, moral and aesthetic impulses, and a related and coeval view of scientific objectivity that brand[s] such impulses as contaminants”. It is easy to understand the historical origins of this attitude: the need to distinguish science from credulous “enthusiasm”, to develop an authoritative voice, to strip away the pretensions of the mystical Renaissance magus who acquired knowledge through personal revelation. We no longer need these defences, however; worse, they become a defensive reflex that exposes scientists to the caricature of the emotionally constipated boffin, hiding within thickets of jargon.
... We’re trying to harness photosynthesis. A key part of photosynthesis is what happens when the sun goes down. Cells convert CO2 into sugar and fat molecules. And they store the fat to burn as energy to get them through the night ... We’re trying to coax our synthetic cells to ... store far more fat than they actually were designed to do, so that we can harness it all as an energy source and use it to create gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel straight from carbon dioxide and sunlight. This would shift the carbon equation so we’re recycling CO2 instead of taking new carbon out of the ground and creating still more CO2. But it has to be done on a massive scale to have any real impact on the amount of CO2 we’re putting into the atmosphere, let alone recovering from the atmosphere.
... We envision facilities the size of San Francisco. And 10 or 15 of those in this country. We need sunlight, seawater, and non-agricultural land, but you need a lot of photons to drive this. You need a lot of surface area of sunlight to do that. It’s a great use for Arizona. Lots of sunlight there.
... If we can’t get some key scientific breakthroughs within the next couple of years, it probably won’t happen in 10 years. So it’s something that’s really dependent on fundamental science. But we’re already able to do things that were once seen as impossible.
... I think the new anti-intellectualism that’s showing up in politics today is a symptom of our not discussing these issues enough. We don’t discuss how our society is now 100 percent dependent on science for its future. We need new scientific breakthroughs—sometimes to overcome the scientific breakthroughs of the past. A hundred years ago oil sounded like a great discovery. You could burn it and run engines off it. I don’t think anybody anticipated that it would actually change the atmosphere of our planet. Because of that we have to come up with new approaches. We just passed the 7 billion population mark. In 12 years, we’re going to reach 8 billion. If we let things run their natural course, we’ll have massive pandemics, people starving. Without science I don’t see much hope for humanity.
I have a very different attitude about blogging.
I blog and comment on blogs because I want to influence what people think, and either change their minds about something, or reinforce some of the convictions they already have. Writing things on blogs is for me a purely utilitarian act that I see as part of the democratic political process, like standing up and making a comment at a town meeting or writing a traditional letter to an editor. Certainly, my ability to influence what people think is highly limited, and restricted to a relatively small circle. That’s OK, because the political process is always the aggregate of a large number of small local acts.
I personally don’t care about “creating” anything, other than creating conviction in the minds of people who might happen to read what I write. I don’t read many of the more creative blogs, here or elsewhere. If I see that a blog post extends beyond four or five paragraphs, I am strongly disinclined to even start reading it. Similarly, I turn away from blogs which start off with elaborate writerly conceits or otherwise suggest by their form or content that they are stories or pieces of creative writing rather than straightforward political discourse. I’m not much interested in reading about people’s life stories or exposing myself to their sentimental outpourings, their unresolved conflicts with their fathers, their compulsive search for love and approval or their excurses into self-directed public therapy.
My background is in academic philosophy. But I rarely blog about philosophy, because I don’t think the blog format is a particularly effective one for raising and discussing philosophical questions with the level of care and logical precession they require.
I certainly don’t write any of this political stuff for posterity. It’s all written in the moment for the demands of the moment, and I assume that 99.9% of the millions of words I have written since 2003 or 2004 are lost forever, like most of the other events in our lives.
I generally prefer to enter discussions that have already been started, rather than start a new one myself. But I do some of each.
I prefer to stick with the progressive and moderate folks who hang out on the Democratic-leaning blogs, because they are the only ones open to being persuaded by anything I might say. I don’t have any demonstrated ability to get a conservative wingnut to stop being a conservative wingnut, so I don’t bother. And I also don’t have a masochistic desire to expose myself more than is absolutely necessary to their lunatic ravings.
To be clear, this is not your grandpa's posterity.
Posterity here can be the next 5 minutes, someone 3 people back in the lunch line.
But I'm not as pessimistic as you. Even though at least 3 of the blogs I wrote for have closed, along with a decade or more of net news, I assume Google will revive it - at least in time to embarrass me in front of 600 of my closest friends, get me fired or help link me to Wikileaks. [Just kidding, guys, just kidding.]
Ah yes, the Poster(ity) Child for Attention Deficit Syndrome. Mad as hell, and I'm not going to tak.... what was I mad about? Howard Beale's undoing.
I really didn't say much in that blog, and mainly just provided a link.
That's one reason I am on Obama's case, and think he needs to take a good look in the mirror and get his values on straight. There are millions of ongoing tragedies in this country, just like Nat's, that are going unaddressed as Obama and Daley figure out how to give Pete Peterson, Jamie Dimon and the money barons what they want. They are wasting all kinds of time on a ridiculously over-hyped budget hysteria promoted by the right, letting people like Paul Ryan set the agenda and ignoring the epidemic of unemployment.
Now the new issue is slashing waste in government and removing excessive regulations: two more Republican bugbears that Obama has taken to heart.
Every unemployed person in this country is suffering some combination of humiliation, indignity, depression and shame, along with their loss of income. And many young people are losing hope. Obama needs an emergency operation to remove the metastasizing Republican tumor that has been growing inside him for two years.
"Beauty."
Yes.
Complete agreement.
And congrats for having the courage to say it out loud.
Beauty.
Why blog? It is a good question, and I would say I blog because writing has always been part of what I love, since I was a small child in elementary school. And although I love politics, blogging only about politics only represents a tiny part of life so I love to blog about everything I find interesting or fun. Life is so much more than just politics.
Here is where I will change the subject slightly to why women leave blogging communities, and I am sorry it if is too off topic or isn't in the vein of what you've written feel free to delete my entire comment. This is just a part of a blog I've been working on for my own blog as I move from DAG to my own place. I believe women abandon blogging communities because of endless confrontation and the bully posse(s) that form to keep commenters and bloggers in line. And it seems where ever we go, those type of commenters and bloggers take over blogging communities, so we abandon those places, because they don't seek to foster discussion, they seek to remove differing opinions, the seek to limit differing modes of communication, they seek to limit ideas. We then form our own communities, like IRL, our model doesn't require everyone hold the same view on certain subjects but that promotes a model of conversation, one not based entirely on anger, because our lives are not consumed by anger. We leave because the formed virtual posse chases us away, we flee for other places that foster camaraderie and is not a competition where the majority of commenters have gathered to crush any kind of discussion they disapprove. We seek a circle of ideas, that we can consider and utilize, because our solutions are always found in the ideas of many.
As women, we live to communicate with one another, but we do not live for endless confrontation. This expanding blog war doesn't include us, we don't live our lives in an endless mode of confrontation, we live in a world of compromise. Most blogging communities thrive off anger and resentment. And if we don't buy into that anger and resentment we are literally bullied off the blogs, mostly by men, but certainly there are women who join in on the process.
Our lives, as women, require we leave our anger behind, to search for the best compromise that benefits humanity to preserve humanity. So we leave blogging communities behind, we move on to create those places ourselves. We accept that we can never convince the very angry or the virtual posse that their anger inhibits progress, so we gather together elsewhere, hoping to softly and quietly affect those around us. When the bullies take over, we simply disappear. So in that we are defeated in our goal of making society as a whole better, because we can't even get a blogging community that endless confrontation inhibits our societal goals. We realize our differing approaches,which many find unacceptable, must be fostered elsewhere.
As I move slowly away from DAG on to create my own space, I want to say thank you to Genghis and AMan. It's been fun, mostly, and I thank you for offering me a space to learn about this thing called blogging, It offers a certain amount of personal growth when one writes and works through ones thoughts. It is like therapy, without the cost.
Hi T-Mac, thanks for your long comment. You are always welcome here. I am sorry you feel bullied and also that it's gendered for you. Your first paragraph is much like what I was trying to get to in this blog. I hope you find that outlet. Maybe you could post nonpolitical things here still sometimes. Or crosspost for a while to promote your blog. Or just take a few months and come back as an angry guy named Dirk. Always works for me. :) Cheers. a
I second this comment except for the Dirk part. Dirks are people too, and I know plenty of very nice, emotionally-balanced men and women named Dirk. As for those Dirks who have anger management difficulties, please consider that they have grown up under a cloud of hateful namism, as you so callously present in this comment. If you were a Dirk, you might be angry too.
I think he just misspelled it. Usually, he comes back as "Dork."
Then gets angry because people laugh at him.
tm, you can't leave! There, I said it. You can't leave. (Well, yes you can, but I don't want you to.) Please at least consider cross-posting here for a while. What you've written above shows just how much your voice is needed here and everywhere. And it is appreciated by so many of us, though we may not say it often enough. Your voice is one of the most unique here, going beyond the endless political arguments in search of something deeper. The soul of it, I think, the life. And often the fun.
Whatever you decide to do, I'll be following you. I like the way you write and I don't want to miss any of it.
Hey Mona, think of it this way, my DAG dad's (Genghis and A-Man) have done their job correctly, I've learned a better way to blog right here, and I am not leaving yet, just making a slow withdrawal while I set up my own home. So I am really just down the street and around the corner, not to far away with frillier shades covering my windows. I appreciate what you've written thank you. I am in search of a better way communicate in this virtual world. One where we aren't constantly warring with one another. And that is too much to ask of others, I can only demand it of myself. But I've learned so much here about blogging in general that it wouldn't be right not to acknowledge that and be appreciative of having the small space to learn. In fact, for the most part I've enjoyed this immensely.
But recently, the more masculine voices who wish to war with each other, have taken over, and it isn't the friendly place it once was, because even as we disagree with a writers ideas we used to at least respect varying opinions and try to see it from their point of view. The former camaraderie I felt here, is disappearing quickly into the usual ideological camps, with borders and walls and dead ends everywhere. I am ready to take the DAG skills to my place, to remind myself not to fall into the trap of intolerance to build more connections. When anger begins to permeate a blog, it swallows it up and it leaves people with nowhere to go. This anger makes it hard to break through those walls which would benefit the many here, because we might understand each other more completely and see each other as humans. As we are all certainly seeking to learn about ourselves and others through the writing process. Lately though, the bully posse have made it clear that differences are simply not acceptable. I am not one to overstay my welcome, I can't fight every day, life is much to short to live it overwhelmed by anger and the blogosphere is already filled with enough anger.
So, as Polonius said to his son Laertes:
I am not gone yet, but I shall take my leave soon as I am busy creating my space. A place where I can go, to get away from all the anger.
As usual, I've gone on much to long, sorry about that, it might be obvious that I've been thinking about this for quite some time, trying to work through this in my head.
I'll be a reader wherever you go, T-Mac. It's a small Internet, after all ;)
I am just down the street and around the corner Wolfie! Like I told Mona, my place is just smaller, with frillier shades covering my windows. Come by for a cup of coffee anytime.
Great piece, A-Man. One reason I do this is that I like to fight. Seriously. We humans are hard-wired for debate and argument and, unfortunately for our politics, using parliamentary techniques and all manner of chicanery to get our way. I know I have a combative instinct and it's frankly led me into some very silly Internet discussions as well as some very interesting ones. So I blog to stay in the argument.
Well... this is obviously wrong.
No surprise, really, coming from the master of ad hominomnomnom.
Hey! Am I the master of the ad hominomnomnom?
He who noms da belt, gots da title.
Destor, thanks. I actually like to fight too, I'm just trying to work to a better place where it makes sense to me again. Writing about why to write was part of that project for me. I need to get Zen about fighting again, and I'm confident I will. So your comment is for me exactly right, and I appreciate your ability to fight cheerfully and well.
This will fit in perfectly for my next blog post, to be titled "Why We Blog About 'Why We Blog?'?"
Seriously, tho, good post.
No, you can't, I have one up later tonight called Why Wolfrum Blogs. It's preempted, sorry.
Like almost any worthwhile activity, there is no single reason to blog, and there need not be any preeminent reason. I blog for the pleasure of creation, the joy of lining up a few half-decent words, the satisfaction of constructing a solid argument, the gratification a well-placed jab, the thrill of applause, the expression of inner turmoil, the fantasy of influencing people, the intensive education every article demands, the dream of being discovered, my own amusement, posterity, beauty, truth, the adoration of the ladies, and the desire to keep slavemaster Wolfrum off my ass. Not necessarily in that order.
"the gratification a well-placed jab"
Lurn to rite, moran;
Plus the rapturous praises from the critics
H&R Block's Reasons to Blog #27: The Rapture
Really?
With a few embellishments, more or less.
I have very mixed feelings about the idea of influencing people, which I presume is the element that struck you. The word "fantasy" is admittedly a cop-out. I do hope to influence people, but I think that it's very difficult to do and presumptuous to think that I can, at least in any meaningful way. That doesn't stop me from trying though.
My feeling was that the desire to influence people is the thing that makes the most sense on the list, and is the only one that isn't about you.
It's no fantasy that you can influence people. Influencing people is easy and commonplace. Maybe it's particularly obvious to me because I used to be a college professor, and when one does that one's influence on people is incredibly obvious. At the beginning of a semseter the student is mostly ignorant of the subject you are teaching, and then at the end they are spitting back in various degres of competence the things you taught them, and elaborating further on the subject.
You acquire some factaul knowledge, and maybe a piece or two of evidence that supports the knowledge. You emit that knowledge in the vicinity of some person. The person absorbes the information and voila! ... you have influenced them.
Dude. What did you teach? Pharmacy? ;-)
I do blog for me and cannot imagine a more worthy cause. ;)
Seriously though, I've never been much of a soldier for a cause. I write primarily for self-fulfillment, which has various components. One of those components is to affect people--to educate them, entertain them, and possibly make them think a little differently. The last of these is the most difficult, imo.
I used to teach as a graduate student, and I recognize that education can make people think differently, but blogging is much different than teaching. College students tend to be far more open to learning than most blog readers, who often seem to seek either affirmation or contradiction rather than education. I would like to think that my book was much more successful in this regard than my blogging, but it's hard to know.
The intensive education every article demands sounds very dramatic. I'm kind of picturing you doing Stallone's training routine in the Russian hut in Rocky IV, with montage in the background, some kind of cheery, upbeat 80s song that you can't quite place, as you conduct that intensive research.
And I agree, there is no single reason to blog. I did my own thinking about it as I wrote the first draft of that piece, and, oddly, found each successive reason more persuasive than the last. But yours and mine have some good overlap, so the ones where we agree must be objectively valid, or something like that.
I'm training for the big title fight in which I will prove once and for all that my reasons for blogging are superior to yours in every respect, including objective validity,
Great blog Articleman. Wish I had a little more time to respond. But since I don't I came across an article by Holly White - Practicing Camus: the art of engagement. She quotes Camus which I think is aligned with what you are saying:
Another way of phrasing why we blog is that it a means of engagement, and thus empowerment. I thought the end of this article has a lot to say for those who reflect on their blogging:
Amen on being tired of criticism, and nihilism.
I have always been tired of deconstruction and wished for a reconstruction in how we speak to each other.
But yes, engagement is the project. Your best big gray box that I've seen, dude. Gracias.
The Shawshank Redemption is one of my favorite movies as well. And it is on the idiot box 24/7, in just about any metro region, on some cable channel, it seems.
I relate to what you wrote about rejecting limits others place upon me, although I don't make it my business to push back on them unless the context makes that a byproduct of something I need to be doing anyway. I am low-key and generally mild-mannered, more of a steady Eddie type when not barking at our kids, and often surprise people who don't know me well with my willfulness. A former boss who had that experience with me told me that I have a strong personality, clearly surprised herself at having come to that perception. I hadn't thought about it that way.
Your post prompts in me the thought that the prison in the Shawshank Redemption could be seen as a metaphor for either the imposition of limits upon us by others, or of life itself. The movie is about how we respond to limits, whether they be physical limits, or capabilities limits placed upon us by others (which I've experienced as well in ways your post reminded me of, maybe a little revenge of the nerds stuff going on with each of us?), or capabilities limits placed upon us by ourselves.
Good point. I think Shawshank is about how we react to the imposition of limits, or to adversity generally. And friendship, and hope, and a lot of good stuff. 1994 was the best year for movies; Quiz Show among others.
I blog because it gives me a forum to be heard. I like to think that my perspective as a former conservative repub turned compassionate liberal is of interest to some out there who don't believe people can grow and change even in their later years.
I also think I have a pretty interesting story to tell, and really what it boils down to is ego. Anyone who wants to put their feelings out there thinks they have something to say that is worthy of being heard.
I agree that you have a very interesting story to tell, stilli. I've referenced your posts on more than one occasion. I think you provide a valuable perspective.
I think your story and perspective are very much worth hearing. My aunt turned from a lifelong conservative Republican to a liberal Democrat in her mid80s. I love that. Her siblings don't, though!
And yes, everyone who puts it out there thinks they have something worthy of being heard, but wishing doesn't make it so, unfortunately.
Makes me think: it would be a cool feature to have Bad Blog or Bad Facebook Page of the Week, but one would get sued. Wait, that's all in tension with my criticism of criticism upthread. Damn the luck.
See, both you and American Dreamer just made me feel good about myself...that's a big part of it! Thank you.
Ultimately, we blog because we can. (Or think we can, which is good enough for internet work.) We've each discovered we have a written voice, every bit as authentic and personal as the one we speak with. It's a talent, rarer than it seems. And like an ability to sing, draw, or dance, it is a joy to exercise. So we do, because it's fun.
If by sheer chance we're smart, well-read and opinionated, well, that's gravy. The written form permits endless polishing, rephrasing, pausing to check our facts on the google, letting the whole damn thing sit overnight so we can review it through fresh eyes in the morning. And if at that point we realize our basic premise is unpersuasive or fatally flawed -- well, there's the Delete button, and no one's the wiser. Our blog buddies will continue to think we're as clever and wise as the last good thing we posted.
As for those blog buddies, the dagblog collection is a pretty remarkable one, and an actual incentive to post. Most maintain some degree of anonymity, but the recurring cast is small enough that the personalities (and backstories) underlying the avatars shine through convincingly. I don't get the feeling any of us are "gay girls in Damascus." Though we are very cosmopolitan, what with branch offices on four continents.
A big incentive to blog has been dagblog's deliberately lax standards as to topics. It's avoided turning into a political discussion club, much less a Democratic Party cell. We talk politics, of course. But we also share our thoughts about love, commitment, birth, illness and death, travel, movies, music, books, the arts, the media, science, history, sports, toaster purchases and Anthony Weiner's penis. G and A deserve some credit for that, I suspect.
Cogito ergo Zoom.
I blog because: I am tired of speaking with zombies, who have no interest in anything other than the Friday night meat markets.
When ever I try to strike up a conversation with strangers I am told, ‘don’t talk religion or politics”
The blogs give me the opportunity to be who I am, talking about any subject, with anyone who cares to participate.
I am not going to sit my life on the sidelines keeping quiet; blogging is a participation venue.
It helps shape my opinions on varied issues, as I learn to avoid pitfalls in the way I should respond. When the day arrives I can speak openly about politics or religion, I am less apt to stumble, because I have practiced the art of persuasion.
I learn of things, the rest of the lemmings don’t value.
H&R Block's Reasons to Blog #36: Pick up chicks/dudes/dogs/robots.
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and lemmings.
How would Handel's Messiah Hallelujah Chorus sound if only one person sung it? It takes more voices with a varying amounts of pitch to capture the essence of the lyrics and music, and the attention of those listening to appreciate the effort. Blogging is the same.
Any blog theme can generate a multitude of voices to be heard, singing both praise and condemnation for others to listen to and appreciate the depth of what the theme addresses.
Hey dude, I already blogged The Rapture - now you're working my side of the street. Get all these ratpurous voices out of here or I'll call the fuzz. And yes, I count any Demian I-IV references as mine too.
Hallelujah !
Hallelujah !
Brilliant blog about blogging, Aman. My own feeling about blogging falls almost totally in line with yours I created my first blog ("Ramona's Voices is one of three) when someone showed me how easy it was to produce one with Blogger. My first was a blog about living the cabin life in the boonies, which I started about five years ago, but once I created my political blog, it sort of fell by the wayside. I visit it now and then and feed it a few crumbs, but it's no longer first in my heart.
I enjoy blogging more than any other writing I've done, mainly because I'm free to write whatever I want to write at any given moment and when I push the "publish" button it's actually going out into the world for anyone to come across and read. I am writer, editor, publisher and in complete control of the look and the content. It's the publishing part that keeps us blogging. Anybody can write but until now not everyone could get it public.
Your last paragraph citing beauty is what separates bloggers from commenters or commentators, IMO. The beauty is in the personal, and it infuses most good blogs, giving them the slant that keeps readers coming back. I think what Dan Kervick is talking about--blogging for the sake of being opinionated without feeling a need to engage his readers--goes against the grain of blogging as I see it.
I love Another Trope's Holly White quote here. Boy, does it speak to me:
Passion can be so much more than anger or sarcasm, and when the pleas for some semblance of humanity are done right, they can, indeed, be a thing of beauty. There was a time when men wouldn't or couldn't publicly express their feelings beyond anger or sarcasm, and I love that male bloggers are finding their own kind of liberation in this new medium.
Women have been writing like this for all eternity. We've kept diaries and journals and have written long letters to family and friends. We've written poems and sung songs to our children. We aren't afraid to express our feelings in settings that traditionally exclude men, but I think what's new for most of us is getting into the political arena with the Big Guys.
Here I'll say it. I felt like crying when I read tmccarthy's comment (and no, I won't apologize for feeling like crying) about her need to leave dag and try it on her own because she has a voice (and a good one) that she feels is unheard or unappreciated in what is sometimes a testosterone-fed din.
I am one of two women on the masthead here at dag and I admit there are times when I feel like the intruder in the all-boys club. But when I read something like this, I think it's possible for all of us, male or female, to be on equal footing when it comes to the importance of our opinions.
We have company for a few days and they're up and around so I have to go, but I just want to say how much I appreciate what you've written here. I'll sneak back when I can to read the comments again. So much to chew on..
T-Mac has to do what she has to do, just like everyone else here. I agree with you that the medium creates a certain type of intimacy more associated with female voices.
We have reached out to lots of folks over time, many women bloggers in particular, without success. FWIW, I don't think of you as a woman first and foremost. I read you and like you and you are who you are, informed by your politics, gender, age, geography, life history. You add diversity to the group in many ways other than gender. Those matter a lot too, IMO.
As far as DanK's perspective, I think almost all perspectives on blogging are inherently legitimate (the only ones that are not are the bad faith shit-stirrers, IMO), and that the different levels of self writers commit are part of the heterogeneity of the community. So I don't think it cuts against the grain, as you suggest, I think the grain consists of the warp and weave of different fabrics.
I think what Dan Kervick is talking about--blogging for the sake of being opinionated without feeling a need to engage his readers--goes against the grain of blogging as I see it.
I don't really understand what it means to blog for the sake of being opinionated. But anyway, I think of blogging as a practical part of the political process, an exchange of information or an attempt at persuasion among citizens in the public sphere, in the context of social choices that need to be made. Since I'm trying to present persuasive arguments on behalf of the positions I am defending then if I write something on a blog, I of course hope others will be engaged enough in what I have written to at least read and grasp the position I have stated. But I don't know how much engagement is required beyond that.
Here's an analogy: My wife and I went out for a long hike this weekend in a town we had never been to before. We had a road map, but in several places we had to make decisions about what direction to turn. In such a situation, I might say, "I don't think we should take this dirt road, because it looks like it is swampy and underwater here."
At that time, I don't think of my wife as "my reader" or "my listener". Am I trying to enage her? Well yeah, I guess since we're discussing which way to turn, I hope she doesn't just drift off into boredom or daydreams while I'm presenting my considerations in favor of turning one way rather than another. But I'm not at that moment trying in any serious way to entertain her, or express myself, or achieve some personal gratification, or be particularly creative. I'm just trying to contribute to a decsion-making process about which road to take.
Most of politcs is the same thing - a discussion about which direction to go.
I also don't think of blogging and blog commenting as a load of fun. Sometimes I find it to be a pain in the ass and very tiring. But I might read something that someone has put out there, and I think I have an opionion on the subject that ought to be put out there as well. And I think, "If I don't make this argument, who will?"
Well, there is the type of engagement that results from an actual exchange of comments, of substantive responses to what has been written. In fact, if I don't see a reply to a comment I've made I have no idea how many people read it, who read it, whether they understood what I was trying to say, and what their response to it privately was. Actual dialogue versus serial commenting is how I see the distinction. In fact, one of the drawbacks of blogging is the lack of any access to body language that in FTF allows one to judge whether another has attended to one's comment and get at least some sense or gut feeling, perhaps, of whether their response was more favorable or unfavorable, say.
Actual dialog is not the more typical pattern in blogging, even here, in the sense that most comments do not elicit substantive exchanges of views. But it does occur, and occurs at this site. People really do sometimes engage one another on the substance of what they write.
I fall back on the PAC transactional analysis model, in which the Adults, the As, communicate well back and forth with other Adults.
The Parents, the Ps, though, only communicate with people that are willing to be a Child - C. When two Ps try to talk down to each other as if the other is a child, their lines cross. No real communication takes place, just a lot of P-ing.
Ha! Good one, Donal!
With some blogers, it's best to avoid dialogue,
It takes a lot of restraint not to defend yourself, against unecessary nastiness and meanness.
Blogging allows the jerks, to say things they wouldn't say to your face.
There are many really good points of view made, and by time you might have thought of a comment to add, it's rolled off the page;..... maybe next time.
It is hard to have a dialogue on this site unless you stay glued to each comment as it rolls down the page.
If you return 3 hours later, you dont know if someone asked you for a clarification, unless you want to read all of the comments again. A lot of time is lost or wasted blogging.
They say there is a life outside of blogging, Maybe life is more beautiful away from the blog?
Yes, fortunately, there is life outside of blogging, for most of us, anyway!
Be Careful,..... If she flat out tells you what direction to take, you better do it.
Unless a hundred "I told you so" doesn't bother you?
Well, our dog Rico gets a vote too.
How about using biofuel to power those up?
I suppose everyone goes into blogging with a different idea of what they want from it, and that's okay. But blogging is wholly voluntary and what I'm getting from your argument -- that it's not fun, that it can be a pain in the ass but it's the only way to get your opinion out there -- is that it's a necessary evil if you want to get a debate going about your opinions. If I've got this wrong you can correct me, but that sounds like an invitation to turn away from your blog, not to join it and follow it.
I have favorite blog sites and, while I choose them originally for their content, they go in my Favorites or on my blogroll based on the personalities of the bloggers and the "feel" of the site. I have to be interested in the bloggers in order to appreciate their artistry or their opinions. It's what keeps me coming back. And isn't that what we bloggers want? We're not putting all that effort into creating a blog without giving some thought to how we'll draw 'em in and keep 'em there. I don't see how you can convince your readers they've come to the right place if you're hating every minute of being there yourself.
On the other hand, if one posts blogs now and then on other sites without committing to a true blog site, it can be a handy spot to park an opinion.
So, okay, I had to write this out to see what you're getting at :)
I had my own blog once upon a time, for about four or five months. It was many years ago. I don't have the time to invest in keeping a blog going, and so I dropped it. I prefer commenting on other blogs, or occasionally posting a personal blog on some site that permits that. But it's about 99% commenting.
What interests me about a blog is the issues that are discussed there. When people respond to something I have written, I think it it is because they find the points I have raised intersting or objectionable or worth discussing or debating.
I am happy if people take an interest in some topic I have raised or claim I have made. But I am generally uncomfortable when people take an interest in me personally. I am a private person and don't like to attract attention to myself or reveal a lot of information about my personal life. I break that rule from time to time and bits and pieces about my life come out over time. But that's usually not where I prefer to go.
Likewise I am a very private person. One among several reasons I remain anon is so that I can share at least a few things about myself if and where I have inclination. Like you I can pretty easily be engaged on a substantive matter with a disembodied entity on the other end.
But I also observe that for many people--not sure about folks here--engaging substantively with someone they feel they know nothing about is something they are not comfortable doing or at any rate are more disinclined to do. Trying to be personable to some degree in these forums seems to me as though it can be helpful in encouraging more people to engage with what one is writing. The chances of replies may be higher, I don't know. People may feel as though even if you disagree with what they're saying you're not going to bite their ass off, at least not in a personal way (bite their comment's ass off, maybe, but not them personally).
Some people are good enough writers as to be able to elicit at least some reactions based sheerly on their compelling writing, even if they come across at times as gruff or curmudgeonly or unfriendly on an interpersonal level. I've always liked your stuff. Is it possible to be friendly with others without losing one's critical edge? I hope so. I'd like to think so. You'll get read by a number of us here, either way.
Beyond seeking intellectual converts you fully realize, Dan, I believe, that movement building, that organized political activity is going to be essential if things are going to change for the better in this country. Surely you know from your own experiences and observations that a key part of social movement building is building cameraderie, a sense of shared purposes, and mutual support. That generally requires some sense of emotional connectedness, not just intellectual agreement. I can agree with someone intellectually without also being willing to "follow them up a hill", so to speak. To do the latter I'd want to feel as though they would have my back if it came to that, as I would mean to have theirs. It helps if I also like them. Maybe that "shouldn't" be the case. But, if we're talking about a non-military, voluntary context, it seems to me that it does.
I'll go ahead and be totally politically incorrect and say that I think almost all women get all of this. I have a fair, and seemingly growing, amount of curmudgeonliness in me in my own life. It seems to run through parts of our family. I think I am near one pole, the one whose endpoint you may represent, on degree of emotional/social comfort level I need to engage someone intellectually--basically none or almost none in a great many contexts. But even I realize that, no matter how much attending to some minimal social pleasantries feels like an unwelcome necessity, it matters. That would be the case even I would seek to engage only with super-serious academics or social critics--and even though many of them don't realize that.
I think all of the above is pertinent even if one's only desire is to contribute to the "brainwork" of some hoped-for social phenomenon, leaving the social and emotional work entirely to others based on not being interested in doing that, or knowing it isn't one's strength.
I'm prompted to make the above gender-inflected remarks in significant part on account of tmac phasing out of here for gender-related reasons. Not that you, Dan, have a single thing to do with her leaving. It just prompted me to reflect a bit on gender dynamics at this site, as I have at times in the past.
"Surely you know from your own experiences and observations that a key part of social movement building is building camaraderie, a sense of shared purposes, and mutual support. That generally requires some sense of emotional connectedness, not just intellectual agreement."
One of the overphrases out there is "sense of community" and one of the overused objectives is "the need for building a sense of community." These are overused because it is fundamentally one of the things we most truly need. I think "building camaraderie, a sense of shared purposes, and mutual support" is most precise way of stating what actually creates that "sense" of community.
We do seek, each in our own way and for our own personal needs, a sense of community through blogging. Even the trolls are driven by a need to connect to others, even if it through a negative emotional connection. One of the interesting things about blog sites such as this is how some words and inserted images and videos can create a sense a community, that emotional connectedness, between people who have never met face to face.
But it is easy to understand why a consistent antagonistic debate between some folks can create a feeling among some of no camaraderie, no sense of shared purpose, no sense of mutual support, and, thus, a sense of no community.
While there are very few real trolls on political websites, you have nailed it on that point. And on the more important and broad point, writing is a form of connection. That's why I find anger for the sake of anger, or dogging people for the sake of dogging them, so poor. Because almost everyone is trying to connect, including while disagreeing with humor or teasing or some base level of respect. Connecting is a vital human need, and this type of forum, while not special in this regard, is one of a million lanes in which people that can actually do part of that. It deserves some nurturing.
I am sorry I made you feel sad. I don't feel unheard, because I have people who come here to read me, I feel outside, one more time, the story of my life. I'll turn this into a blog rather than do anymore damage to AMan's blog.
Not that the post's author's meaning controls or even matters, but I meant beauty as a reason for the global of writing, not simply political positional or political engagement writing. Those things can be viewed both through the prism of appreciating beauty, but more obviously, as utilitarian acts. (Maybe totally ineffective ones, but hey, so are individual votes marginally insignificant, and as you say, we have to engage to make the world better.) Maybe engaging the world politically is part of what I tried to say when I ended the blog after all. I hadn't thought of that when writing it, so much.
But seconding your thoughts about why to do this. Blogging is oddly like the Greek notion of citizenship, your comment makes me think.
Beautifully said! I particularly like the line about enjoying the world or trying to change it. I try hard to do both. This is not a dress rehearsal. I am not "certain" about what comes next, but I'm pretty sure this is our only shot at life on this earth, and we need to balance the enjoying and changing. I'm not sure that in the grand scheme of things blogging is as important as feeding the poor, but if our words can sway a few people here and there into feeling a little more compassion for those less fortunate, the compounded effort is worth it.
Yes.
Don't know how my thought relates to yours, but here it goes...
• I've thought for a while now that, despite all the arguing and rough disputation that takes place at Dag, there probably isn't a dime's worth of difference in what people here might describe as their "ideal society." There would be, I think, 99% agreement on the types of policies, etc., we'd all like to see. So a lot of the arguing is over tactics and analyses of what's happening and why.
• When I have political discussions on FB, they are much different. my FB friends are far more electic in many ways. Daggers have self-selected (for the most part) as liberals or progressives. FBers are my friends because of others connections, e.g., old high school friends or friends of friends, t'ai chi buddies and buddies of buddies, and on and on.
• So it's not uncommon for me to hear things like "I've given up thinking life should be fair," or "We need to help the corporations; they're under attack," or "Bush didn't lie; everyone thought Saddam had WMD," or "the government screws up everything it touches." And of course, some of my FB friends say things that one might hear here at Dagworld.
• So while I do battle with my FBers and have been much more aggressive there than here, I also like to sit back and listen to how "they" think about these things...get how they react to Obama... see how they evaluate various policies and political figures, etc. It's interesting because, in some ways, they are a more representative cross-section of ordinary Americans than are Daggers.
• But then this thought occurred to after I read Dan K up above: Blogging is really a disembodied activity. You don't know what anyone looks like (mostly). You don't know how old they are. You mostly don't know much about their lives or histories. And on and on. And yet, politics is really an embodied or material sport. Yes, it's about ideas, but it's about the material conditions that make up people's lives. So I'm led to wonder that, if the materialness of life were somehow brought into blogging, became a part of a blog, whether Daggers would agree as much as they appear to, at least on the surface.